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My used AA410

As many of you know and have read about the circumstances, I bought a used AA410 off of Love my Talon SS, aka Gary, a couple of weeks ago.

It was advertised at $600.00, now I would not dream of sending 600 bucks off to an unknown person for a AA410 with a Hawk Sidewinder scope since being fucked in the ass by Mitch Glover a year or more ago.

Add to that the fact that some crooks are daily screwing folks on the AA classifieds, selling guns they do not have, as I write this.

But most of us know Gary, and altho he is having a bit of a bad road lately, which we all hope will bring him to some better days, he has always been a man of his word.

I recieved the package from Gary the other day and opened it and found a AA410 carbine in 22 caliber with a rather mutilatd stock and a very heavy Hawke Sidewinder 6x24x56 with the Map 12 reticle. The metal work on both the gun and scope were about 98%or better, but the birch stock had been skeltonized and the rough wood covered with stain and a liberal dose of probably Tru Oil, read that rasp marks and laquer runs, but WTF he sold me a $600.00 rilfe with a quaility scope, a harris bipod and a tactical soft case.

I was money ahead, unless I bought a walnut stock from Pyramyd $275.00, at which case I would still be in the ball park on money spent vrs actual value. I figured I could always make the stock look better.

But first I needed to get that heavy scope off what appeared to be a handy little carbine, I did not want to buy a new scope right now, I am in the middle of a land dispute/Lawsuit on the other side of the world and it is taking a lot of my airgun money, so a new scope and a new stock are and were out of the question. I thought about the scope on the Ranger 45, a Burris Fullfield 2×7, but it has no AO and would not take advantage of the accuracy I was hoping for on the AA410, so instead I traded scopes with my Condor 25 which had a 5×15 3200 mildot Tactical, that made the carbine much more livable.

First thing I wanted to do was to sight it in at 80 yards, I have a favorite Doug Fir that is a crow magnet and so I need that range first of all.

First thing I did was crony the carbine with 18.1 JSB’s and much to my pleasure, It as averaging 932 FPS/35FPE for the first magazine, and 908FPS/33FPE for the second mag, after that it falls like a brick.

So I get good 18 shots, because I only put 9 in the magazine, perhaps it has been tweaked to get that velocity, I don’t know but that was the velocity I was after when I started looking for a upgrade/repeater rifle.

So far everything was looking good, but then I shot the little gun.

At 25 yards I got what should read correctly as .04 not .004 🙄 for 5 JSB 18 grainers c-t-c on the actual hole.

At 50 yards, which I did not take a picture of, with a 5 MPH cross wind, I got .50 inches for 5 shots.

I then checked Chairgun and saw that with a 50 yard zero, I should be dropping 5.8 inches or three Mildots at 15 power which is also where my true mildot is on the 5×15 tactical.

I shot 4 shots at 80 yards, then had to reload, the wind changed, putting the 5th shot just a tad out of the group, but I shot this group which is a hair under .88 for all 5 shots and exactly 5.8 inches low, I think it can do better and as you can see the aiming point is about that size also.

I went after the stock with a wood rasp and then from 180 grit down to 600 grit, then some OOO steel wool to dull the finish and smooth up the wood and runs, I still need to stain the raw wood, but I don’t have any stain on hand yet, then I will put a dull oil looking finish by appling True oil correctly and rubbing it with OOO wool when it sets up.

So far I have tried three shots on game, 35 yards off hand, 50 and 80 yards with a rest, and I am batting 100%, 3 shots 3 hits.

I have the Condor 25 sighted in with the big Hawke on it, I have 50, 65, 76, 80, 101,112,122 and 132 aiming points with the Map 12 reticle on 12 power, it seems to be a clear scope. and fits the Condor much better than the AA410.

Life is good.

Regards,

Roachcreek

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it is the chairgun which is the prob !
dont know how as both programs are from the same company but i saw the same when i use my chrony and brc that chairgun gives a different value. disregard chairgun and go with brc / chrony reading. u wont be wrong.

Lee,

It is the Classic air tube.

When I first got it and ran it over the Chrony I was very pleased, however, I can’t vouch for the accuracy of the readings on my chrony tho.

THe Chrony reads my Condor with Kings, using a RL Hi-Flow type valve and the PW maxed out, at 970 FPS.

However, according to the drop figures I got while checking the drop against Hawkes BRC program and the SR12 reticle, the drop figures had it at 1100 FPS at 50,60,70,80,90, and 98 yards.

I set my Chrony out today at 26 yards, and shot over it and compared it to Chairguns figures for 26 yards, the readings confirmed 900+ velocities, but earlier today I checked drop figures on my range at 50,60,70,80,90, and 100 yards, Chairgun says I am in the 865 FPS realm.

I suspect I could have had a unseen headwind tho.

It would seem my Chrony clocks the Condor 100+FPS slow and the S410 60 FPS fast, I don’t know that that is possible, so I guess it is time to send the Chrony back to the factory and get it checked.

Perhaps the BRC and the Chairgun are wrong and, the Chrony is right, or the Chrony is wrong and the BRC and Chairgun are correct, or worse yet they are all three wrong. To me the actual range performance is more revealing than a electronic marvels, it is range work that connects lead with fur and feathers.

No doubt about it, 920 FPS/18.1 grains with a carbine seems high.

Regards,

Roachcreek

Thanks, Thats a lot of power for the carbine, is it a short air tube or classic tube?

Lee,

Yes I do with 18.1 grain JSB’s with a 2750 PSI fill.

928
924
938
942
942
943
946
942
924
923
933
935
928
919
920
919
914
906
813 which I believe to be an err of some sort
892

Chairgun verified the trajectory of that today with a 11.5 inch drop at 98 yards with a 50 yard zero.

Tethered I shot a 1.5 inch 9 shot group while testing for mildot holdover, I blew the 10th shot.

Roachcreek, do you have a shot string on the 410?

Good looking rifle!!!

That’s really nice RC, it looked good before, but it does look cleaner now, you might think of leaving the contrasting color in the cut out, and seal the wood. ????

ehhh, maybe not. 🙂 Any way it’s a thought. 😉

Really nice rifle you have there, one hell of a bargain too!

Have fun.

Nice guns.

I love my AA410. I bought mine brand new for $600 before they went up in price a few years ago.

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