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62’s down range

Hi all just had question on the 62’s energy at 100 yards. they leave my barrel doing 905 fps and 114fpe. does anyone have info on this?

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Here are the numbers I got

http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3929&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180

Scroll down to my second post with pics and I have numbers there.

Thanks Gunner, I appreciate the promo. Don’t worry about the miff, I know no harm was intended. I just have to watch out for folks that read one thing, take it as fact and then spread it all over the net. Then there are folks like our resident troll that just make crap up but that’s a whole different thing.

I was just killing some time during a boring phone call comparing the values that the generic calculator puts out with the BC values that Lee lists. Actually a pretty good correlation for a good number of slugs. I still think .123 is probably high but not by as much as I thought before. We’ll have to get some numbers to be sure.

I was happy to get a PM this morning from a fellow that was shooting 6 rings over the weekend, he said they were hitting the steel at 100 yards harder than the .22 rimfires that were also being shot. Given that he wants to buy some slugs, I’m very happy with the feedback!

Sorry for the miff. Point well taken.

Did you see I promoed your slugs to the new guy ?
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20363

cha-ching

quote AirGunner1:

BC (ballistics coefficient) isn’t an assigned factor, rather a post calculated figure.

The only way to truely create the BC is to shoot at ranges in a controlled environment of zero wind and back figure the BC.

This can be done by shooting and recording the drop and then curve fit backwards. (as no one wants to risk a chrony shot at 100 yds., but you could with a nice brick wall and a hole to the bull’s eye.)

Give me some numbers and I’ll be glad work them for you.

Exactly, that’s why I was a little miffed to see numbers posted without any reference to the BC used or the use of such a low value.

All the BC calculations I’ve done have been with near muzzle measurements and over the chrony shots at distance (43 or 50 yards). I don’t have the time to this now for the 6 rings but maybe someone has the time. Running the numbers isn’t that hard.

Using .05 (which I bet is a little low even with rings – a round ball is about .05) my Condor at 200 yards with a 62 grain has nearly the same energy as Stubby Hi-Flo .25 with Predators at the muzzle 37 fpe. More than enough for a opossum.

BC (ballistics coefficient) isn’t an assigned factor, rather a post calculated figure.

The only way to truely create the BC is to shoot at ranges in a controlled environment of zero wind and back figure the BC.

This can be done by shooting and recording the drop and then curve fit backwards. (as no one wants to risk a chrony shot at 100 yds., but you could with a nice brick wall and a hole to the bull’s eye.)

Give me some numbers and I’ll be glad work them for you.

.123 is what I got also.

Regards,

Roachcreek

Now thats sounds more like it. i still can’t beleive that my airgun is shooting this powerful. my stock condor was only doing 65 fpe out the box and that’s still really powerful but 114 fpe in 25n cal with a Tony tune is awesome! can’t wait to get my first kill on a larger animal. With these readings im sure coyotes out here in arizona will be no problem out to 80 yards. that’s if my american bulldog doesnt get to them before me.

ChairGun

Using a BC of .050 (this is debatable)

25 yds = 101 FPE, 852 fps
50 yds = 88 FPE, 793 fps
75 yds = 78 FPE, 750 fps
100 yds = 69 FPE, 704 fps

Looks like you jumped out a little ahead of what you knew when you posted those numbers.

The BC of a 6 ring is probably at least double the figure you used. If you plug the weight into a generic calculator that uses weight and diameter along with basic shape (I used semi-wadcutter/HP as that was the worst case) the estimated BC comes out at .123. That’s probably optimistic but I’ve done a lot of BC testing on other slugs and I’ve got some rough data on the 9 rings that leads me to believe we’re at least .05 on the 6 rings.

I had used ChairGun and a BC of 0.025.

Do you have a listing of various BCs for various pellets ?

For instance:
35.8 gr Eunjun
43.2 gr Eunjun
26.0 gr Predator Polymag
62.7 gr 6-ring

Yeah thats what i thought Jerry. I spoke with Tof a while ago and he said that my 43’s hitting 90 fpe would still have like 60 fpe at 100 yards. i would think the 62’s would carry a lot more power down range with their weight. Anyone else know? I have seen what they can do to a stock pot at 120 yards but at what energy?

Yeah, those numbers don’t seem quite right. Please show your work. 🙂

The only way those numbers work is if the 62 has a BC worse than a diablo pellet. They are not even close.

Thanks. how wer you able to get that info?

ChairGun

Using a BC of .025 (this is debatable)

25 yds = 89 FPE, 796 fps
50 yds = 68 FPE, 704 fps
75 yds = 54 FPE, 622 fps
100 yds = 42 FPE, 548 fps

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