Venting The Bushing
Can some one tell me what part of the barrel bushing is being vented, and is the vented long ways like the bushing itself or across the front edge were the moderator meets the bushing ?
Is drilling a hole all the way through the bushing a bad way to go ? are shell i just stick with venting ?
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I tryed shooting it with out the cups in the tube and it had a crack.
but with the cups its good B.Y shooting
ah hell.
i have 8 cups in the tub. I just finished putting the groove in the bushing. cant wait to get off work so i can try it out. 3 holes and a groove plus two holes in the frame. what the heck it just a test.
DID YOU SAY EDGUN!!!!
I dont use the cups because I have a12″ barrel so I don’t have to use them per RL instructions.
The groove on the inside is about the size of a pencil eraser. I’m not sure if it would work with more grooves. I might drill some vent holes in the original bushing that came on the barrel if I ever sell the RL shroud and grooved threaded bushing.
Man This is dang good info and thanks for it. Im getting ready to mill a groove that size all the way down. The three holes i drilled worked fine, but the cups blocked some of the holes. if you have the R&L 12″ shroud you know that the cups butt up agenst the bushing. but it still pass air through all 3 holes and out the 2 holes i have in the frame. The three holes did help. i use to put the power wheel on 3 or 4 to keep the noise down. now i can put it on 9 or 10. now i will try the groove.
You need to get the madd dog stock it feels good. I have one. how did you get that GEN2, Iv PM that guy 3 times and nothigh, O well. if you want to see pic of my setup pm me your email. i dont know to post pic on here. once again thanks for your reply.
DID YOU SAY EDGUN!!!!
I’m afraid Muddfoot is going to drill holes in his cups and ruin his modifier.
He needs to post pictures of his modifier, when taken apart, so we can tell him which piece to “notch”.
I tried to explain that the first barrel bushing between the modifier and the Talon SS frame shroud was to be notched. Our friend is not up to par on the parts of the Talon SS.
I also explained that a few holes needed to be drilled behind the first barrel bushilng, in the bottom of the Talon frame shroud, but in front of the second barrel bushing, for the air to escape. I don’t believe he fully understood what parts I was talking about.
I no longer have a Talon SS or the R & L shroud, so I can’t post pics to show him.
Does anyone have the R & L modifier who can post a pic of the piece to be modified? That would really help.
No Muddfoot, you didn’t bug me.
The part to be notched is the one that your modifier screws into. The black part on the end of your modifier that grub screws to the barrel.
Just dremel or round file a notch on either the inside or the outside of that part so air can escape past it. DO NOT notch your cups, or any other part of your modifier. Just the rear steel part that your modifier screws onto.
The escaped air goes past that black modifier screw-on, and is trapped in front of the barrel bushing at the end of the barrel. It is that space between that needs three holes at the bottom, where the foregrip attaches, so the air can push outside the shroud. They need to be close together and small, no more than 1/8″ wide.
That’s it. That’s all I can offer without pictures.
Sorry pal….
Kindly ‘Ol Uncle H 😯 😯 t
PS: I remind you that steel piece you’ll be filing is harder than a Democrats dick when he watches the national debt go up another Trillion Bucks, so be prepared to file or Dremel for awhile. :whoop:
The Gen2 insert is working good, makes a Pffffffffft sound when I shoot the Talon SS and is good enough for backyard suburban stealth. I have a dog next door that monitors my shooting and it is two bark quiet which is about what my Edgun gets. I like using the RL bushing, I can switch back and forth from the screw-in RL shroud and the Gen 2 insert. The RL has a somewhat quieter report when fired but it is heavier and longer. I seem to like the feel of my Talon SS when I have the Gen2 insert in it, short and easy to carry. I was looking at the Madog stocks today at RL and might get one of those one day or if one ever comes up for sale in the classified (anyone have one for sale?).
The groove on the inside is about the size of a pencil eraser. I’m not sure if it would work with more grooves. I might drill some vent holes in the original bushing that came on the barrel if I ever sell the RL shroud and grooved threaded bushing.
LT how is that new gen2 working for you?
My RL bushing that I bought secondhand has an inner groove all the way down it, forgot what it looked like until I just took a look with a flashlight. Prior owner must have modded it.
As for HOOT, don’t worry about it. He can only reply during exercise hour just before they administer the meds.
hay thanks for you reply. did it have just one groove? i was thinking about putting 3 grooves in it from one end to the other. are is that a bad idea. and how wide do you think the grooves is, i know it just a guess. but thanks for you reply.
that’s some funny stuff about hoot. lmao lmao
My RL bushing that I bought secondhand has an inner groove all the way down it, forgot what it looked like until I just took a look with a flashlight. Prior owner must have modded it.
As for HOOT, don’t worry about it. He can only reply during exercise hour just before they administer the meds.
I saw where somebody grooved the inside of the bushing once, but I cant remember who it was. Taking that approach is much more difficult without a mill but could be done with the right tools.
thats a good one. putting grooves in the inside of the bushing from one end to the other. im going to do that tomorrow. you are right the cups block the holes. but nothing can block the grooves no the inside. thanks
I saw where somebody grooved the inside of the bushing once, but I cant remember who it was. Taking that approach is much more difficult without a mill but could be done with the right tools.
I drilled three holes all the way through the bushing that came from R&L. i was trying to do what hoot did but he stoped talking to me. I guess i was asking to many question and bugging him.
I don’t have a bushing like that. the one i have came from R&L.
ive been looking at making a copy of something leupy once showed me, which was a square front bushing, contacting the frame at 4 points, allowing a ton of air to pass thru, seems easier than venting…
If your moderator tube butts up against the bushing face, drilling holes in the bushing probably wont have an effect cuz they would be blocked off.
I saw where somebody grooved the inside of the bushing once, but I cant remember who it was. Taking that approach is much more difficult without a mill but could be done with the right tools.
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Now that I have 8 cups in the shroud tube and 3 holes plus a groove in the bushing and 2 holes in the frame all I can here is hammer, I think plus what the pellet is hitting. I’m going to chroney the thing. This is so quiet I think it has me thinking something is wrong. But the pellet is hitting hard.
Test 2 will be with the 18″ barrel.
LT U THA MAN