DPMS in Disguise and camo
I’ve had a bunch of guys/shops on the lookout for a .308 DPMS Classic for awhile. It had a lot of the features I was looking for, including a forward assist dust cover (here, that’s sticks and brush), shell deflector and a 20 in. barrel.
After months of no luck, one of the shop guys calls me to look at this “Remington R25”, actually made by DPMS. After comparing side by side to a DPMS and finding “DPMS” stamped in the bottom of the clip, it was obviously what I’ve been looking for, only in camo vs. black. That’s not the stock clip, but a Pmag. Added a couple other small parts, too.
Close up, showing the kinda odd forward assist. It’s that little button under the left scope ring. I checked its action; the little nub of an assist does engage the charging bolt effectively.
Put a Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 6.5-20 x 50mm scope on and went shooting. That is one sweet combo. I’m still playin’ around with bullets, to see what the gun likes. So far, the Federal Premium Match are best, but for the money, Wal Mart sells the Federal Power Shock soft tips for hunting. Those grouped surprisingly well for cheap ammo ($15-16 a box). Got a buddy who reloads, too. He’s going to make a .308 sampler to play with. After 120 shots, no problems and smooth cycling.
The scope is amazing, super crisp optics. Highly recommended for long range and for those hunting in dim light. Pricey as hell, but that’s why I don’t have TV, high speed internet, a dishwasher or dryer; I burn wood, raise/shoot food and work two jobs. Once in awhile, you got to pick up something you want, as an incentive to keep working your ass off while the earnings disappear in bills, retirement (??) savings, and those annoying body parts that need medical attention as one gets older.
Besides, it’s nice to have one decent scope in a collection of embarrassingly cheap ones.
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Oh yeah, the trigger assembly was targeted before I bought it. Guess the manufacturer didn’t want it accidentally going off if it fell from a four-story rooftop! 😛
Elsolo, thanks for the tips. Where’s a good place to pick up said trigger assembly? If it’s online, a serial/stock number would be great. The stock trigger is about 4 lbs too heavy! The buttstock also needs a softer pad; after shooting several 20-shot clips, it’s like getting punched in the chest the next day. I’m using a shoulder gel pad now, got originally for shooting 12 gauge Nitro Mags.
The R-25 is a nice rifle, I bought mine four years ago, serial numbet is under 800.
Fitted a JP trigger, VERY higjly recommended to upgrade the trigger assembly, as it did come with the worst trigger of any AR I have and it’s such a simple drop-in. Mine wears a Leopold 3×9-40 mounted in an Armalite one-piece mount.
I have enjoyed the best results reloading with 150grain bullets and IMR-4895, loaded near maximum published data.
Sweet rifle! I got a DPMS 308 18″HB , and its a great shooter.
I liked it much better than my M14.
Dust, I got a bit of a discount since I was getting a bunch of stuff. A “Classic” DPMS, which is basically the same thing without camo, will typically run about $1,200, if you can find one. The 18 in. barrel model DPMS are a little easier to locate, as are the 24 in. bull barrel models.
The Remington version can often be had for $1,300-1,400. You’re paying more for the camo job and the Remington name. Since they’re easy to take apart, a used one could be a lot cheaper.
How much did you pay for it? I was looking for a 308 or 243
Nice!
Thanks guys! Appreciate the ammo tip Saw. After shootin’ pellets for awhile, it kinda stings the wallet to make the radical switch to a big boomer. 20 shots per $16-25, vs. hundreds of shots with pellets. Still, it’s a blast to shoot and ready for deer season. I’ve got herds out here most of the time.
Shaggy, I don’t remember the twist rate and the manual/specs, but I think it’s 1 x 10, same as the DPMS “Classic” .308. If I find out differently, I’ll let you know.
Kinda screwy around here, finding these rifles. One day they’re common and a week later, they’re tough to locate. Maybe it’s just this area.
I do recommend changing the charging handle latch/release with a tactical style “ear” as they’re called. Makes it easier to reach and maneuver the charging handle with a scope in the way. I also added a silicone, internal wedge to tighten the fit upon closing. Since it was pretty tight already, I had to carve down the wedge. The clip that came with it is a “hunting” clip, 4 shots? You can modify that clip to hold a few more, maybe seven, but poly is the way to go.
The single stage trigger can be swapped out, if you want. In fact, there’s a lot of possibilities, regarding mods. Here’s a decent review of the rifle:
http://archives.gunsandammo.com/content/remington-r25-review
The writer, Sweeney, was quickly able to get 3/4 in. groups @ 100yds, with a rest. Nice!
man that’s a beauty!
After months of no luck, one of the shop guys calls me to look at this “Remington R25”, actually made by DPMS. After comparing side by side to a DPMS and finding “DPMS” stamped in the bottom of the clip, it was obviously what I’ve been looking for, only in camo vs. black. That’s not the stock clip, but a Pmag. Added a couple other small parts, too.
Close up, showing the kinda odd forward assist. It’s that little button under the left scope ring. I checked its action; the little nub of an assist does engage the charging bolt effectively.
Put a Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 6.5-20 x 50mm scope on and went shooting. That is one sweet combo. I’m still playin’ around with bullets, to see what the gun likes. So far, the Federal Premium Match are best, but for the money, Wal Mart sells the Federal Power Shock soft tips for hunting. Those grouped surprisingly well for cheap ammo ($15-16 a box). Got a buddy who reloads, too. He’s going to make a .308 sampler to play with. After 120 shots, no problems and smooth cycling.
The scope is amazing, super crisp optics. Highly recommended for long range and for those hunting in dim light. Pricey as hell, but that’s why I don’t have TV, high speed internet, a dishwasher or dryer; I burn wood, raise/shoot food and work two jobs. Once in awhile, you got to pick up something you want, as an incentive to keep working your ass off while the earnings disappear in bills, retirement (??) savings, and those annoying body parts that need medical attention as one gets older.
Besides, it’s nice to have one decent scope in a collection of embarrassingly cheap ones.
Ive got one in a 223,,18 inch barrel. Now that gun you have there would definatly be a tack driver in 20 inch since it’s a 308, best cartrige ever made. When I bought my r-15 I was really wanting a 308,, now I’m going to the same Gun store and am going to order one,, you done got me in the spirit. I can make the load I need,, OK here’s my Question,, What is the twist rate?;)
I have the Remington Varminter in 308, it is a hot rod of a gun, but that one there would be real easy to carry,, Love it got to have it.;)
Congrats bogman, sweet rifle. Nothing like a semi-auto .308 battle rifle with great optics!
Bogman
nice weapon, fuckin sweet
I got a 700 Tactical 308, also have the 223 too
Have not shot the 308 yet, but the 223 loves the
Fiocchi ammo, Canned Heat and bulk stuff as well
I have 500 rnds in 308 ready to go, just waiting for the
dessert to cool down
Check out Ammotogo.com, sometimes good deals
and cheap shiping, make sure you ask for a Tshirt
they sent me one for free
Later
SAW
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That rifle will accept any AR-15 trigger kit.
There are so many good ones now, from 100% drop-in like Timney, Geissele, McCormick, etc…to those that require fitting. The JP requires fitting/filing. I pribably bought mine from MidwayUsa, they carry darn near everything currently popular, but not everything is always in stock. The .308 AR’s sometimes need a slightly heavier hammer spring, but I didn’t use it, I used the regular .223 trigger spring in the JP kit.
(because of the free flosting firing pin, they are supposed to use harder primers, CCI#34, I just use regular large rifle primers and never had an issue with slamfires)