next shipment of r3’s to the u.s.a ?
JUST WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS ANY NEWS ON THE NEXT SHIPMENT OF R3’S I CANT WAIT TO GET MY HANDS ON A 25 CAL R3. LOTS OF CROWS HANGIN AROUND. I WANT TO TRY THE SHOOTING OUT THE SUNROOF THING WITH A 25 😆 TONY, ED? ANY NEWS WOULD BE GOOD NEWS
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“Life” is a sexually transmitted, 100% fatal, disorder!!!
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– which comes in different wrappings and sizes, – still the same shait…!!! 😥
Unless you have a few EDguns of course…… 😉
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“Life” is a sexually transmitted, 100% fatal, disorder!!!
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Makes two of us……. 😳
At least !!!
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Hey, oldgoat, what the hell are we doing among that bunch of fossils… or is it more polite to say patriarchs 😆 In any case lets hope their condition is not contagious 😯 😯 😯
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Substantial markup 😯
Well yesterday I took the leap…
I attempted an offer on that R3 .25 Long which was $2,900 reduced now to $2,800.
I was under the impression from someone the R3 .25 long were starting at $2,400 so i thought there is some wiggle room to make an offer.
Within 20 seconds of my offer Tony responded to me answering my question and informing me all matadors are $1,950.
I normally would never back out of an offer but I quickly did and sent an email to the seller.
But he had already responded to my offer was too low , cannot do
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Hi everyone! i’m in the list for a Long .22 R3, hope they come soon! nex Season looks great 😉
seeyou
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I do hope we can do it in October/November.
PS: Kiba; NOBODY is sure about HOOT! 😆
LOL!
Regarding the lasers, the wide beam divergence of any of the “reasonably priced” (i.e. less than $1500) rangefinders makes it tough to get accurate and repeatable ranges on something as small as a squirrel at any distance. It’s much easier to find squirrels near a much larger object and then just range that object!
To accurately range small targets requires a laser with a very small beam divergence to avoid returning a range from other nearby objects; for example even something like a Vectronix PLRF10C (at $6300) has a beam divergence of 0.3 x 1.5 mils; at 100Y that means the laser is ranging an area that is 1.08″ x 5.4″. While that’s seemingly a large area to get a reading back from this is far better than the more “average consumer” units such as say a Leica 1600 which has a divergence of 0.5 x 2.5 mils which translates to 1.8″ x 9″ at 100 yards. Beam divergence isn’t everything though as the higher end units like the Vectronix will return a range on objects that lesser units won’t return any reading on.
For small targets like squirrels, the best solution I’ve found is rather oldschool– an optical coincidence rangefinder. You don’t have to worry about beam divergence, reflectivity, or the target being big enough to get a laser reflection back from; as long as you can see the object simply adjust the knob until both images in the viewfinder converge into a single image and then read the range off the dial. When properly calibrated they’re very precise even for something as small as a ground squirrel. Unfortunately they’re fairly bulky and best used for stationary squirrel hunting. A friend and I use an old 1950s vintage Wild Heerbrugg unit for ranging squirrels and their mounds beyond 300Y in the wide open alfalfa fields around here where there are no solid objects to get a range back from a laser rangefinder.
You can also mil the little buggers with your scope and calculate their range that way but for critters that vary in size and are as small as a squirrel I’ve found my best estimate… usually isn’t. The optical rangefinder is much quicker and more accurate.
If someone made a smaller coincidence rangefinder with about 20-30x magnification and a usable range from 100-2000Y that would be an awesome piece of gear for long range squirrel and p-dog hunters and guys who like to shoot at small objects at long distances.
Guys: GOOD things come to those that wait!
Kiba, I also have a R2.5 22 cal standard and a R3 25 long. The standard is easier to poke out of my truck window but, I prefer the 25 long overall. I have been not so patiently waiting for a R3 25 standard since last November. When the R3 25 standard comes in, the R2.5 22 standard will be up for sale. Outside of the higher cost of the JSB 25 cal pellets, it is a no brainer going with the 25 cal.
I also agree that the R3 25 long is good out to at least 150 yards. I was out shooting ground squirrels a couple of weeks ago and I spotted one way out there. I couldn’t get an accurate range on him with my Nikon Laser 1200. The best that I could do was laser a fence post that was behind him. The fence post was at 160 yards and I thought that the GS was around 10 feet in front of the post. It was slightly breezy, with the breeze coming right to left; I used some Kentucky windage and held over for 157 yards. I guess that the GS was at 156 yards as the shot must have shaved some hairs off of the top of his head. He jumped back down into his burrow and didn’t give me a second shot.
I must have waited around 20 minutes for him to pop his head back up. While I was waiting, a flock of starlings landed in the same spot and I tried to get one of them. As I was easing the trigger back, the flock started taking off and by the time that the pellet got there, my target was gone. I think that the shot would have been slightly to the left of the Starling but, I was impressed that, even at 150+ yards, the R3 could put the pellets where I wanted it to put them IF I did my part!
I have the video of that day’s shooting. I need to get it finished and post it.
I have a Nikon RifleHunter 550 ID and the Nikon Laser 1200. The Nikon does better past 100 yards but, it still has trouble picking up a GS past 110 yards.
I really love to shoot GSs past 100 yards and I would happily spend big bucks ($750-$1250 or more) on a range finder that would ACCURATELY pick one up at 100-200 yards if: it was small enough for me to be able to carry it! 😯
PS: Kiba; NOBODY is sure about HOOT! 😆
Makes two of us……. 😳
At least !!!
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You must have on of those new Hawke 5-60 power scopes, with 150mm objective lens and built-in laser range finders! I can’t even see 110 yards, much less crack a ground squirrel!
In awe….
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No Hawkes here (very poor experience with one in the past); just a Bushnell 3-12 x 44 first focal plane with the G2DMR reticle. I’d be using the 6-24 version if only it had 10Y parallax capability.
20/12 eyesight probably also helps. 😀
I was very surprised too– but then went on to whack 3 more ground squirrels off another debris pile at 132 yards and was equally as shocked/surprised every time I heard the “whop!” of the pellet connecting and saw another squirrel tumbling to the ground. That afternoon was very unusually absolutely calm and allowed for several surprising shots. A friend out with me with an Air Ranger in .22 also made a few kills in the 110-130 yard range that day. Typically our afternoons and evenings have variable winds in the 5-8 mph range which makes any of the longer shots rather difficult especially as it swirls through the orchards.
Ed’s rifles never cease to impress me– especially on those days when everything comes together. 🙂
Damnation Kiba….
You must have on of those new Hawke 5-60 power scopes, with 150mm objective lens and built-in laser range finders! I can’t even see 110 yards, much less crack a ground squirrel!
In awe….
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Nice shooting…!
thanks for the info
Wow
I have always knowm there is a waiting period but 11 months …wow
If you do not mind how do you like the standard .25 ?
What is the distance you shoot at?
Loudness?
JR
11 months is nothing. I waited over 3 years for one of my powderburners between order and delivery because of some production problems and 50% was due up front. I’ve been waiting 14 months now for a stock for another one of my powderburners and it’s going on 9 months now for a stock for another powderburner. I also waited almost 9 months last year for another rifle and I ordered another rifle in July that was quoted at 6-7 months. 😯
Anyways, I previously had a .22 standard R2.5 and now have the R3 .25 long. I prefer the .25 long for almost everything. The .22 standard was easier to handle in Ed’s original application (being used from a car); the long version is tougher to get in and out of a window without knocking it on something. I prefer the balance of the long version for offhand shots and the shot count on the long .25 is fantastic– right at 100 shots on a fill spitting out JSB 25.4’s at 900 fps. The long .25 is quieter than my old standard .22 even with 50% more muzzle energy, but the R3 has a new shroud design and more shroud volume than the R2.5. Farthest kill so far with my long .25 is a ground squirrel at 147 yards; one second he was sitting on top of a brush pile and the next he was on the ground twitching his tail for the last time. Conditions were perfect for that shot. 90% of the time I’m going after ground squirrels they’re between 40-110 yards and as long as I can get an accurate range and the wind is cooperating you only need one shot per squirrel. 🙂
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“Life” is a sexually transmitted, 100% fatal, disorder!!!
H 😯 😯 T
– which comes in different wrappings and sizes, – still the same shait…!!! 😥
Unless you have a few EDguns of course…… 😉
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Life is full of disappointments, and I’m full of life! — I hope this has no bearing on my .25 R3 Standard… Ed, you listening? 😉
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