XP making bullpup stocks
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Muzzle?
Unless you put a break on it that redirects the air back toward the shooter nothing will wind up behind the face of the crown (likely within 45 degrees of the crown)…
12″ (14″ at the most) isn’t going to do much for the sound. Loud is loud.
And if you add a break that pushes back toward the shooter isn’t that about the same or effectively worse then putting it in a bullpup configuration? 😕
You are saying you wouldn’t want both right? Because you already have made it sound far worse then it would be in a pup stock.
I shot next to a guy with a Weatherby 300 something or other with a muzzle break. Damn thing was LOUD and kept knocking stuff off my bench. 😈
Thank god his ammo wasn’t cheap and he only shot for a little while. 😆
Beautiful rifle though, had some nice glass on it too.
I have heard that the early DAQ designs could and did on at least one ocaission cause such an injury.
I just don’t care for the muzzle being that close to my face, my Ranger is loud.
I have a Stoner muzzle break on the Hlaey 257 and enclose it inside a 2x2x4 foot sound chamber setting in front of my beench rest.
I was slow motion videoing bullet flight patterens to 260 yards, the amount of air that comes out of that thing is incredable, it shakes and air boils out of it in a wave.
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I doubt that would ever be an issue on the XP design. Bolt lever notch combined with enclosed carrier is excellent.
However there are manufacturers that have bolt fully open to rear and the possibility is there for bolt to become rearward projectile.
I say this because in early 80s at local club an individual was hurt badly by his centerfire rifles bolt breaking and coming back on him.
Very rare accident and thus my statement of which of the two I’d be more concerned with for respective stock configurations.
In bullpup air rifle you will notice puff of air as Oring starts failing and can be replaced before possibility of injury.
In standard stock with open bolt to rear you are going to get hit if retainer fails.
The Ranger bolt is not coming back.
RC
I don’t think you need to worry about that. The bolt in the breech will act as a diffuser. The OSHA approved air nozzles used in shops today( I have a few) operate on same diffuser premise. The old air nozzles typically had a 1/4″ hole with some adapters down to 1/16″. A direct blast right against skin could harm you. I’d be more worried about a bolt retaining pin breaking and bolt coming back on me than an Oring any day.
Not talking about the bolt. It’s the o ring holding the air from getting out. O rings fail and a blast like that could penetrate your skin. Then you get air in your blood and die.
In my high school shop class if anybody got caught blowing themselfs off with the air hose the class got sat down and book work.
As opposed to being right in front of your face on standard stock?
Either way you are going to get injured and its going to hurt.
Given the two I’d rather take a blast of air to side of head than a bolt straight back into the face.
Yeah lets put are face right next to where 4500 psi is being held back by a o ring and a bolt when you pull the trigger.
I have thought about that fo rmy Ranger.
But the cobwebs clear away and I remember why I never wanted a Styer Aug, just never liked that muzzle so close to my head when I touched it off.
Since I redid my Ranger 45 stock, it is the shortest and lightest air rifle I own outside of my Drozd BB gun.
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Roachcreek
Looks like a 50 BMG rifle.
Barring a hunting stand, that would be a monster to tote about.
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I used to have a 340 Weatherby built on a Remington 700 action and a pencil thin Douglas barrel on it.
It weighed 6.5 lbs, and I magna ported it before I ever shot it and had it in a 6’s Enterprise stock. Barrel was so thin it bubbled the magnaporting off eventually, and I wanted to know how it kicked without the magnaporting for shits and grins, it broke the stock.
But even with the magnaporting it was a dirty bitch to shoot. The bolt wore holes in my hand if I got into the elk and shot more than 5 or 6 rounds, I shot it the first time and as I chambered a round the trigger tripped, the sear was upside down when reassembled, I had the stock against my chest as I closed the bolt to test fire it, thought I was going to have a heart attack.
Well I restocked it and got a early muzzle brake from Daryl Holland who made the reticle in my Leupold, it resembled a behive, and actually would pull the rifle from your shoulder it was so effectiveh, but you only shot it once without hearing protection.
I was one of the most painful noises I ever heard, right up there with the Ruger Blackhawk in 30 carbine and the few Casulls I have owned over the years.
So I bought one of the first pair of Dillon ear muffs to hunt with, and that really changed the elk hunting game. I had killed maybe 20 head by that time, but once I got the amplified muffs, I could hear them grazing and pushing snow and limbs around to get to the grass in the mahogany ahead of me and put the sneak on them.
I loaded Nosler 250 grain Partitions in it at 2900 FPS, never saw a rifle drop elk so fast in my life.
I eventually went back to 300 Win mags for elk, and then to the black powder rounds, the Weatherby was a great elk rifle, I just got tired of having to write my name and address on the back of my hand so other hunters would know where to deliver me after I shot the dirty bitch.
The Stoner break on the Haley is not that loud, and in the box it is pretty nice, without it, it just blows the air out the back of the box and is loud.
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