(YouTube Video) How to Heal A Sick Daystate Air Wolf —Leak
Hi all,
Okay, so I have had problems with my Daystate Air Wolf leaking air from the Foster fitting. After a lot of emails to Daystate and the shop that I bought it off, Daystate emailed me some pictures of how to take apart the filling apparatus. Take a look and learn like I did.
Part 1: http://youtu.be/iEDBV-0VxZs
Part 2: http://youtu.be/41l7waPjEOY
Please feel free to ask me questions, I am happy to help people on here.
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Hi Ryan,
I’m almost afraid to ask: did the new o-ring fix the problem? (from part 3)
The Air Arms s510 Extra FAC,Super-lite .22 is not what I’d call a powerhouse. It’s accuracy is wonderful and a JSB 15.9 grain pellet can nail a fly at 40 yds.+ I shot an Asian Stink bug, first try, at that range http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23346. I’ve also killed large groundhogs by aiming at either the head/brain and spine, where it meets the skull. At 60 yds, the JSB still have plenty of punch for small game. Farther than that, I can’t say. I also work at a vineyard and need to set up some targets there; my place is too brushy. This spring, I nailed around 35 squirrels in five weeks, zero misses except one deflection from a branch in one of my heartnut trees.
You can safely get about two clips/20 shots from a tank filled to 180 bar. It takes about two minutes of hand pumping to top up the pressure after that. The gun can shoot heavier pellets and take pressures to 200 bar, but I have not found a pellet that shoots as well as the JSBs. At 200 bar, the JSB pellets are moving too fast for accuracy. It’s very quiet, great trigger and I’ve had zero issues, so far.
No doubt, I’d buy another. Hard to imagine a covert use, but maybe if you’re head-hunting and need to be quiet, who knows? I’m sure that JSB at 50+ yds would still punch through a human skull. With specialty pellets, the pressure could be increased along with lethal limitations.
After awhile, I lose count of the rodents killed each year with the s510, but it’s well over 150 squirrels, along with dozens of rabbits and maybe 3-20 groundhogs, depending on their populations, year to year.
Hi,
Thanks for the great reply. I am sorry to be replying so lately. You summed up everything that I wanted to know about the 510. I have the Daystate AIr Wolf in .22 cal., at 30 foot pounds; firing 21 grain Baracudas at ~810’/second. So far, this has been the best combination for me with removing pests, i.e., gophers and crows. I am quite confident that this would work well on skunk or raccoon type sized animal.
Regards,
Ryan
Hi Ryan,
The Air Arms s510 Extra FAC,Super-lite .22 is not what I’d call a powerhouse. It’s accuracy is wonderful and a JSB 15.9 grain pellet can nail a fly at 40 yds.+ I shot an Asian Stink bug, first try, at that range http://www.talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=23346. I’ve also killed large groundhogs by aiming at either the head/brain and spine, where it meets the skull. At 60 yds, the JSB still have plenty of punch for small game. Farther than that, I can’t say. I also work at a vineyard and need to set up some targets there; my place is too brushy. This spring, I nailed around 35 squirrels in five weeks, zero misses except one deflection from a branch in one of my heartnut trees.
You can safely get about two clips/20 shots from a tank filled to 180 bar. It takes about two minutes of hand pumping to top up the pressure after that. The gun can shoot heavier pellets and take pressures to 200 bar, but I have not found a pellet that shoots as well as the JSBs. At 200 bar, the JSB pellets are moving too fast for accuracy. It’s very quiet, great trigger and I’ve had zero issues, so far.
No doubt, I’d buy another. Hard to imagine a covert use, but maybe if you’re head-hunting and need to be quiet, who knows? I’m sure that JSB at 50+ yds would still punch through a human skull. With specialty pellets, the pressure could be increased along with lethal limitations.
After awhile, I lose count of the rodents killed each year with the s510, but it’s well over 150 squirrels, along with dozens of rabbits and maybe 3-20 groundhogs, depending on their populations, year to year.
We sell unusual plants, carnivorous plants to be specific. We used to sell a wide variety of hard to find types, but sales dictated our specializing in pitcher plants. We also supply the cut flower and pharmaceutical trades with cut leaves/pitchers. I reckon we have 80,000-90,000 of the plants growing here in specially constructed nursery beds and containers.
Hi Bogman,
Oh, how interesting; those plants have always fascinated me. I remember having a Venous fly trap back when I was ~12-years old. I guess with all those nursery beds and space, you get the odd squirrel passing by and that’s why you have air guns, ha ha.
I was thinking about getting an Air Arms s510, do you like it? Most people do not know this but the Air Arms s510 is seeing a lot of use in places Afghanistan for covert shooting. My question is what is the power and how quiet is it? I have heard (from a reliable source) that the s510 is a very robust piece of equipment out in the field.
Talk to you later,
Ryan
Ryan,
We sell unusual plants, carnivorous plants to be specific. We used to sell a wide variety of hard to find types, but sales dictated our specializing in pitcher plants. We also supply the cut flower and pharmaceutical trades with cut leaves/pitchers. I reckon we have 80,000-90,000 of the plants growing here in specially constructed nursery beds and containers.
So, that was a sintered brass filter. My Air Arms s510 has them clearly visible at the fill probe. Sintered brass filters create a peace of mind second only to enlightenment. 
Sorry, I’ve always liked those things, especially in engines, so easy to clean and reuse!
Knifemaker may have a point (aside from the knife-tips 😆 ). If you haven’t given the JSB Kings a run, I’d give them a chance. I’ve been very happy with results from the Kings in my, dare I say, FX Royale 500. My regulator is set up for these, so I can’t reliably try ‘cudas in that rifle. In all but one of my air guns, JSBs are the most accurate. What does Daystate say is the best pellet for this type of competition?
Good to know the wolf can take the cold! I need to download/get ahold of an operator’s manual so I can understand how the rifle functions.
The FX folks are not good in communication and PR. My experience is they are awful. Maybe it’s a cultural difference, lack of business savvy, who knows? These days, with cyber communication, profit is linked with customer satisfaction and support history. If Daystate keeps this valued, it will have the upper hand in a competitive market. Trust and brand loyalty propagate profits. While I really like the FX I have, it’s largely because there have been no problems. E-mails I sent to them went unanswered. You’re report of Daystate’s receptiveness to consumers speaks volumes about the future of Daystate. That is a major reason why I’m looking at adding a Daystate to my collection and not another FX. The FX gun isn’t the problem; it’s the FX people/company. Quality limited to production/manufacture is a death-wish, when considering a discretionary product’s long-term future.
I’ve run a mail order business since 1982. Since that time, we have had ZERO customer complaints. Issues regarding problem shipments (damaged by shippers) were handled personally by myself or my business partner. That has led to greater market share. There is no greater advertisement than a happy customer. The fact that Daystate is even willing to work with you towards excelling in the Arizona competition is remarkable!
Good luck and thank you.
Regards
Hi Bogman,
Agreed, the sintered filters provide a extra insurance policy; should anything go ‘sideways’ (and it usually does). I think Knifemaker brings up some good points, and I will see how the rifle performs. I think I will do a performance review on the Daystate Air Ranger and post it on YouTube, what the heck.
Here is a YouTube video that shows, in detail, how the Daystate Air Wolf functions (see link): http://youtu.be/5km1m9xArog
I am sorry to hear about FX dropping the ball when it comes to customer service. I have spoken with Tony Belas, of Daystate, to just ask him (the guru) some questions and he took the time to talk to me so I appreciate his time. One other time, I had two .22 cal. Daystate magazines malfunction so I told my vendor, they told Daystate, and what did Daystate do? Well, Clare (Daystate employee) took my word and sent the replacement magazines before I had returned the defective ones. All that she asked was that I send the defective magazines back so they could figure out what went wrong with them. Is that not awesome or what?
I like the idea of FX’s smooth-twist barrels, as they are a very novel concept in airgun barrels. Hopefully, the get their poop in a group and start looking after their much-needed customer base. It sounds like you look after your customers very well, what is you business (if you don’t mind me asking on here)? Well, I am going to shoot my .25 cal. at the local range and see how it groups. Good talking to you and Bogman on here.
Regards,
Ryan
Many top long range shooters of the .25’s have tried to get the Cuda’s to preform up to the JSB levels, and all have seen them fail.
By the way, the Winning pellet at the match you are speaking of was again, JSB! 😉
We would all like the heavier Cuda to work well past the 80 yard mark, But they just don’t. 🙁
KnifeMaker
Hi KnifeMaker,
I must admit that I am only just now gaining experience with the .25 cal. and the Kodiak Match (Baracuda). So, I cannot argue with you and also have not tested the rifle out to 100-yards; where it will demonstrate true or fabled accuracy. I will have to let you know how the tuned .25 cal. Air Ranger does.
On the other hand, I have had fantastic results with the Baracuda Match in .22 cal. (5.51) and have tried the JSB Monsters. The Baracudas shoot sub 1″ groups at 80-yards whereas the JSBs shot 36″ groups. I know that the skirts are quite thick on the Baracuda/Kodiak versus the relatively thin skirts on the JSBs. So, I need to go and check things out. By the way, I am not hacking on JSBs, my Air Arms TX200 loves the 15.9 grain JSBs, of course, I want to see how it will shoot a Baracuda green…
🙂
Regards,
Ryan
Hi Ryan,
So, that was a sintered brass filter. My Air Arms s510 has them clearly visible at the fill probe. Sintered brass filters create a peace of mind second only to enlightenment. Sorry, I’ve always liked those things, especially in engines, so easy to clean and reuse!
Knifemaker may have a point (aside from the knife-tips 😆 ). If you haven’t given the JSB Kings a run, I’d give them a chance. I’ve been very happy with results from the Kings in my, dare I say, FX Royale 500. My regulator is set up for these, so I can’t reliably try ‘cudas in that rifle. In all but one of my air guns, JSBs are the most accurate. What does Daystate say is the best pellet for this type of competition?
Good to know the wolf can take the cold! I need to download/get ahold of an operator’s manual so I can understand how the rifle functions.
The FX folks are not good in communication and PR. My experience is they are awful. Maybe it’s a cultural difference, lack of business savvy, who knows? These days, with cyber communication, profit is linked with customer satisfaction and support history. If Daystate keeps this valued, it will have the upper hand in a competitive market. Trust and brand loyalty propagate profits. While I really like the FX I have, it’s largely because there have been no problems. E-mails I sent to them went unanswered. You’re report of Daystate’s receptiveness to consumers speaks volumes about the future of Daystate. That is a major reason why I’m looking at adding a Daystate to my collection and not another FX. The FX gun isn’t the problem; it’s the FX people/company. Quality limited to production/manufacture is a death-wish, when considering a discretionary product’s long-term future.
I’ve run a mail order business since 1982. Since that time, we have had ZERO customer complaints. Issues regarding problem shipments (damaged by shippers) were handled personally by myself or my business partner. That has led to greater market share. There is no greater advertisement than a happy customer. The fact that Daystate is even willing to work with you towards excelling in the Arizona competition is remarkable!
Good luck and thank you.
Regards
When taking into account that the JSB has been proven again and again to be more accurate at 100 yards than the cuda, Nope. Not too smart.
Many top long range shooters of the .25’s have tried to get the Cuda’s to preform up to the JSB levels, and all have seen them fail.
By the way, the Winning pellet at the match you are speaking of was again, JSB! 😉
We would all like the heavier Cuda to work well past the 80 yard mark, But they just don’t. 🙁
KnifeMaker
Thanks for taking the time to video the take-apart for the Air Wolf Foster-fill leak.
So, was the hair the culprit? I.E. did you fix it? I was wondering if the seal got damaged, ever so slightly, from the fiber and high pressures involved.
I’m also curious what you found out about what looked like a sintered brass filter, the piece you purposefully left out. One would hope there is some sort of backup air filtration along the air passages.
On a different note: since the Air wolf uses electronics, any idea how it would behave at subfreezing temperatures? I’m not likely to hunt/target shoot below 15 degrees F, but that’s important to know about during winter.
Thanks!
Hi there,
You are welcome, I post my videos not to advertise and gain money but to help out fellow air gunners (like me and you). I recently had some talent scout for a YouTube based company try and recruit me in order to monetize my account. I said: “no thank you”.
The culprit is still unknown, Tony Belas, of Daystate, is sending me another fill adaptor. After pulling the hair, the rifle still will not hold air—so there will unfortunately be a Part 3 coming up for the video. After seeing that it was leaking again, I pulled the fill adaptor and replaced the brass filter (called a sintered filter) and filled the gun again; this time using a 1:1 ratio of dish soap and water to see if I could get some bubbles to indicate the source of the leak. This did not work, so, I am in communication with my Daystate dealer and Daystate themselves.
I have another Daystate Air Wolf (.22 cal., 30 ftlb) that I have at least ~8000 pellets through and it works flawlessly. I have used it during the cold winter and have found that the only thing to be affected by the cold was that the screen gives a slight pause before displaying the information when the safety is taken off (I live in Canada so it can get cold here). Other than that, the Air Wolf still howls when it is cold out and I have not experienced any difficulties with the rifle whatsoever.
Hence, I am glad I bought two Air Wolves instead of just one, and, I just ordered a .25 cal. Air Wolf that I will be using at the extreme benchrest in Arizona this coming November (2013). The rifle is being built in England, by Daystate, so that it can be custom tuned specifically for the competition in order to contend with the new and formidable FX-BOSS (which is a pretty nice rifle but Daystate is building this for me because Tony says: “there is some unfinished business”, ha ha). One more thing, I sent over to Daystate a tin of the 31 grain, .25 cal., Kodiak Match pellets and they will use that specific pellet for their tune; pretty cool eh?
Hi Ryan,
Thanks for taking the time to video the take-apart for the Air Wolf Foster-fill leak.
So, was the hair the culprit? I.E. did you fix it? I was wondering if the seal got damaged, ever so slightly, from the fiber and high pressures involved.
I’m also curious what you found out about what looked like a sintered brass filter, the piece you purposefully left out. One would hope there is some sort of backup air filtration along the air passages.
On a different note: since the Air wolf uses electronics, any idea how it would behave at subfreezing temperatures? I’m not likely to hunt/target shoot below 15 degrees F, but that’s important to know about during winter.
Thanks!
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I’m almost afraid to ask: did the new o-ring fix the problem? (from part 3)
Hi bogman,
Arrrghhhh. No, the new o-ring did not fix it. I think the o-ring was originally the problem but with me taking it apart so much it might have damaged the DOWTY seals so now I have to find some of those. One day this wolf will howl (I hope). Don’t worry, I will put out yet another video when it does get fixed or the next step. I am not discouraged or anything, in fact, I ordered another Daystate Air Wolf in .25 cal. in spite of this debacle. Stay tuned Mr. Bogman—more to come.
🙂