Pellet performance
Hi Guys
Long time no chat, work load and all. Finally finished the first phase of my wet pack tests and would appreciate comments/ criticism or anyone else’s findings:
Rifle:- 0.2 Talon SS, Hi flow valve, brass hammer, test pressure started at 2500 and refilled at 1900.
Pellets tested Polymer tipped predator and the enjin 23grs. Half the enjin 23s were cut to form a dum-dum. (Will post pics at some stage)
I used a 5cm wet pack with a 5 mm hardboard insert (to simulate bone)
I also rotated my shots( 1 shot once with each pellet and then rotate the 3 pellet strings).
Target distance 40 metres (approximately 44 yards)
FINDINGS
The enjin (solid) passed through the wet pack with a small wound channel. I only recovered 1 pellet and that was at the back of the wet pack. There was very little deformity.
Conclusion: A very hard pellet good for penetrating Lager game (geese etc.)
The enjin (dum-dum) Average penetration was approximately 4,5cm
The wound channel was large (2x size of the pellet). Problem, if the cross is cut off centre the pellet tumbles inside the wet pack and the “wound channel is not straight, which may push it past the vitals with hitting any)
Predators: These were a great disappointment as they only penetrated 1.5cms and totally disintegrated. Maybe the wet pack is too hard or the velocity to fast. These pellets were the most expensive and at 2x the Price of the JSBs I expected more.
I think I will do a series of tests on the JSBs next.
Thoughts. Is a wet pack representative of flesh and bone?
What is the penetration in Game for every cm in a wet pack? Every rabbit so far is a through shot.
Are the velocities for the predator too high (Enjin was 900fps, Predator 1050-1150 fps)
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Only started hunting Egyptian geese recently, I am building up relationships with Golf courses here. The geese make a huge mess of the greens and they are looking for an effective and quiet means of control. They taste damn fine if cooked properly too, now all I need is a dog so I can shoot them in the water.
Nailed another one today. I only aim for the head and end up with head and neck hits. I think I will try the predators, Enjins are going straight through and if I miss the spine and they go through the neck I spend a long time chasing wounded geese all over the golf course (until they bleed out or I get a 2nd shot, not a very pleasant experience).
Going to Aus for 2 weeks, so I won’t be able to hunt for a while. Thanx for the comments re the predators, I will try them on head shots and hopefully I will get more 1 shot kills. I supposed a 1.5 – 2cm penetration is all you need for a head shot, and they shoot flatter than the enjins. I should get more shots per cylinder too.
Shoot well
Dave S
I’d keep plinking down to a minimum with the preds as they are $13 a tin vs. $6 a tin for your avg. pellet.
Congrates on the first kill. If i were in your area i might be inclined to setup a birdfeeder or two. Sparrows come first, then your other birds, and oddly enough the squirrels seem to follow the birds. The sparrrows make a racket and the squirrels know its diner time is my thought.
Don’t know why, but the critter population in my area is almost nothing, or I might try those predators, really don’t think I’d waste them for plinking/targets, as they must be more expensive than the regular pellets I shoot. I did get my first kill the other day though, as I was target shooting in the backyard. A bird (not sure what kind) landed on our back wall @ about 20 yrds. At the time I was shooting CP’s, with the PW on #4. (TSS)
I quickly positioned the gun for it, gave a slight turn of the parallax turret to crisp it up, aimed for the bulk of the body, and fired. Saw a instant puff of feathers, and it just dropped like a rock. It fell over the other side of the wall. I got up right away to look for it, and saw it. No twitching, nothing. It seemed it was dead before it hit the ground. Being my first one, I was pretty impressed! Anyways, I think I’ll get some of those predators, just have, you never know what can come flying, or crawling around.
I agree, Predator transfers all the energy it’s got, killing birds instantly. I’ve killed a lot with Kodiak also, but every now and them they fly off and fall dead few yards away. I wish JSB starts making them in .25
You findings reflect my field experience. Predators exhibit significantly more lethality than any of the round head pellets, and are my choice for less than 60 yard thin skinned tenacious game. They are death on birds. My gun usually shoots them well, but with annoying flyers, usually 1 in 5 is well out of the group. Even with the flyer, the group is usually smaller than a Crow Magnum group however.
Are you really hunting Geese? Tell us tales.
For stopping power the predators are great. The more the pellet stays in your prey the more energy is impacted into the animal and not through the animal.
Predators fragment and expand…..that is ideal when hunting.
The predators with the polymer tip really don’t drive deep and are meant to break up on contact with bone. Behind the tip its basicly a hollow point, which isn’t goint to penetrate very far. Its a pellet made to not over penetrate and just shatter on impact. I would say the velocity was a bit high.
The Eun Jins performed as they should as well, being made of a harder lead alloy.
I use duct seal as a pellet testing material, obviouisly denser then flesh, the consistency is about right and retrival of pellet is always posible. The predators break up in duct seal as well. Still the most accurate pellet i’ve ever shot.
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Wow Psion I bet those Preds will make a mess of that suckers head/neck 😆 I can’t imagine it not killing them quicker that the EJ’s unless you hit them in the beak from the front.
I had thought about asking the local Golf course if they had any Ground Hogs or other varmints needed a killin. I know they have Geese as they are all over the frigging place.
Jim.