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Sound Loc trashed my accuracy but i got it back

I order a sound loc kit for my Talon SS and received it last night and installed it this evening. Stepped out to the shooting bench and started shooting at a 40 yard target and was I dissapointed. It shot 2 in groups and was all over the place. I had also ran a dry swab through the barrel while I had it out and figured it would settle down once I got the barrel seasoned but that was not the case. It stayed bad after a 100 plus shots.

I finally pulled the Sound lock out and it went back to decent groups. I was aggravated that I had spent that much money on a factory set up and it not work. I tinkered some more and decided to line the slots up on the top rather and staggered like the drawing in the instructions. It was an instant fix my groups went back to 1/2″ like before. Not sure if anyone else has ran into this issue but if you have try lining up the slots……..

Talon/Talon SS

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I have a been tinkering with regular guns for a lot of years and I used to reload a lot. I have spent a lot of money on powder recipes, scales etc etc to get accuracy. This is totally opposite, find the right pellet and tweek the gun to fine tune it. Just ass backwards to me……….but i like it…

Knife, at our age, any screw is a good screw right………….Loctite, the viagra of the air gun world……..

JJR

Merry Christmas to all….. I didn’t get any airgun stuff but did get a really nice bench top bead blaster cabinet. Made in America and 1/4′ thick plastic that is quite and wont rust.

Amazing what a little screw’n can do for a man! 😀 😉 Makes the World look much better!!! :8:

Knife

I wonder how many people have those issues because screws are loose and then just dump the gun thinking they are just shit. Glad to see you found a problem, fixed it and now back on track.

Back to my original problem with the Sound lock system. My Talon SS went nuts on me this afternoon, I could barely hit a playing card at 40 yards, I tinkered with the pellets, oil/un oil versions, messed with the power setting and nothing seemed to help. I pulled the Sound lock and the end cap and nothing improved. I finally took the gun into the shop and got serious about checking things out. I discovered the barrel screws were not tight, the worst was the bottom ones. Then I checked the top hat and it was also loose and not set right. I very carefully went through the gun tightening and thread locking everything. Went back to the shooting bench and it was a total transformation. I was back to shooting diamonds and spades on playing cards at 40 yards.

I staggered the sound loc this time and it seemed to work just fine. I am still learning these guns but it is fun and somewhat frustrating………….. :banghead:

Thanks J!

Yep, the first time I applied for a carry L. years ago, They kept rejecting my app. They said the finger prints weren’t readable. 😆

Merry Christmas! 😀
Knife

Very nice knife making skills and yes you do appear to like shaping metal. I envy your patience……..

I have never had the patience for knife making and I hate having burnt or sanded off fingers tips all the time….. Everything you touch in a knife makers shop is turning 9000 rpm or is 3000 degree’s in temp. 😀

Happy holidays.

Yep! That proves it Looking your Calc’s. CRS creeping in. 😉 It can creep in at any age, but is most noticeable in the advanced years! 😆

I too enjoy a bit of Metal WorK. 😀

Knife

When I built that shop I vowed to keep it clean and everything in its place. When I get through working at the end of the day it gets cleaned up even if I am in the middle of the project. That picture is also pretty dated. both those machines in the picture have digital readout now plus there is a Taig 4 axis cnc that is not seen.

As far as old fart, I turn 50 in a few months. 28 years with the same company and married 30 years. One of these days I hope to retire to that little shop and build all sorts of things….. I have had many hobbies i.e. RC cars, trucks, airplanes, helicopters, G Scale trains for outdoors, still an avid gun collector but the one hobby that has supported all the others is metal working. As time and money has allowed I have upgraded equipment along the way. I figure I have at least one more move in my career and I have kept everything bench top so the company will move them for me if needed.

I started tinkering with PCPs because the allow me to shoot many rounds setting in my 40×50 barn with the roll up door up and a target 40 yds outside. We live on 5 acres but there are houses all around us and they get jumpy when I unload a 1911 clip in the gun pit out back. After you get past the initial gun, scuba tank and shoe box compressor it is pretty cheap to bust off a couple hundred rounds of pellets.

by the way I have about 3 of those calculators, I kept loosing the little ones so I drilled holes in them and screwed them to 3 walls so I can always find one…….. 😳

Now I need a little advise. Have any of you handled or shot an evanix AR6 PCP rifle. I am considering one but I keep hearing they are really good and then I will read where they arn’t worth buying. This will just be a fun gun for plinking and target shooting. This spring if FX and Teds hold over will get everything straight and I will try to get my hands on a 25 cal bobcat.

Good looking Shop, but judgeing by how damed neat and clean it is, it’s easy to see you aren’t getting much done in there! 😆

I can also guess that your an old fart like me. That Giant Calculator on the wall gave you away. 😉 😆

Knife

looks like a nice little setup there 😀

It could have been as simple as something misaligned rather than the holes the first time and I did not catch it. I did look for clipping marks on the baffles and end caps and do not recall seeing any. But we have to keep in mind my groups went from 1/2″ to scatter gun, to say the least i was a little frustrated so I could have easily missed something. I am very new to PCP but not new to shooting and I really like using quite guns.

I do have means to work and tinker with them but my current job keeps me so stinking busy I don’t have as much tinkering time as I want. This picture is on my tinkering cave…… 😀

Sounds like they weren’t quite aligned properly and causing either clipping or near clipping. A pellet doesn’t have to actually hit the baffle to be up set by it. If too close, the pressure wave bouncing back and hitting the pellet while passing thru the baffle can effect accuracy.

Knife

The baffles are designed very similar to a k baffle and the way the k baffle works is the port for the gasses stagger so that they flow around the cone to slow them down. So if the ports were lined up it would be less efficient at lowering the sound of the gun. I do not know if the sound loc baffles actually work in the same manner as a true k baffle for a firearm because there are subtle differences but if it does then you would stagger them. I have used mine staggered and also lined up and i did not notice a big difference or a change in accuracy. I usually stagger so if they do act similar to a true k baffle then it might help in reducing the noise.

I was sick when I first shot mine, I thought i had wasted a lot money for nothing. Just by chance before I gave up I tried lining them up and it shot great. I need to miss align them again and shoot it again and see if it screws up the groups. I put about 300 rounds through it last weekend and it was shooting great groups.

And again for clarification the instructions show mis aligning them. go figure…….

I should of fooled around, some more with mine, I guess, but I just sent mine back, I thought mine was spinning.

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