suggest a very air effiecient HUNTING rifle for around $1k!
So I was thinking of getting an Air arms s510 to pair with my new .22 edgun r3m so don’t reslly want another bullpup just yet…
I want a gun with a GOOD (60+) shot count and preferably a power adjuster and sidelever action. Something different than my edgun to compliment it. I like to go hunting all day in the woods with a friend or my girl so having 2 high shot count guns is great
I also do a lot of backyard shooting so that’s why a power wheel is almost a must. Sound isnt too big an issue as I can akways get a good LDC plus the power adjuster would cover that.
My edgun is .22 so this time around I want at least a .25 and even considering a .30 or .357.. but id have to double check my states big bore airgun hunting laws…I live in CT
So yeah side lever and power adjuster are almost a must. I also would like a nice classics wood style gun this time too and would prefer it to be new for around 1k but if there’s something a bit more that I can get used and have it tuned and looked at I would consider that too.
Also really like the evanix sniper rifle but too conflicted on what caliber to get haha. Plus I haven’t seen any shot strings or long range groups. I prefer the gun to easiLy reach out to 100y to pair with my edgun.
So far it seems like the air arms would be the perfect choixce…also wanted a LW barrel. What type of barrel does evanix use?
So if you think the AA sounds exactly what I want let me know or if you had another gun in mind? Also any of you who have one think I should go for the thumbhole stock? Its $200 more but I really really like it a lot better than the regular one. I also like the look of the twin cylinder s510 and think the carbine version is very cool…almost like a sawnofd shotgun 🙂 still will have a higher shot count than normal 1 cyl
Any of you with an AA s510 want to chime in on how many real world hunting shots they get with the single or twin cylinder versions on high power?
Also the ONE must have requirement for this gun is that its not TOO heavy! I will be using a sling but will be in the woods all day with this and don’t want snything over 8lbs or so. The marauder is about as heavy a gun id buy
Open to all suggestions that are a PCP just include your personal exp with weight,shot count, etc
Thanks guys!
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In general, the carbines have a lower shot count due to barrel efficiency, unless twin tubed. The .25 will use more air and lower the total usable shots. I can’t imagine getting 60 shots from a .25, single cyl. Your highest shot count will be with the smaller pellets, twin cylinder, full length. A .22 in that configuration should get you close.
AA makes a Fine AG! Just to give you a head ache, take a look at the Daystate Huntsman. Beautiful little guns. And a very good price! 😉
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Haha I think an edgun can compare!but yeah I just need to decide which version…..
Cheap but light poplar stock for 1099
Walnut thumbhole for 1.2
Twin cyl for 1.3
Or twin cyl carbine for 1.3
Id rather have the carbine twin over the regular due to weight but I think its only .22 I wanted a .25 hmmmm
Any suggesttions? Or who knows the differences in weight? My 2 top choices would be the thumbhole in .25 or a .25 TC if not too heavy. If only the carbine TC was .25 id have no problem choosing! Ugh :rofl:
Steer clear of the BSA’s. You either get a good one or you don’t. The R-10 is a beauty to behold… If it works. Even the later MK has problems.
The stupid cocking system of the old Ultra has been phased out. Reaching forward to ready to fire was a pita, especially if laid up prone waiting for prey.
Get the 510 FAC. Then you can moan about how your other guns don’t compare…. 😉
Also I was interested in the BSA guns that have the cocking mechanism by the air tube? The “Ultra” model but not sure what others have it as well. I think that’s a cool idea and like the uniqueness of these 2 guns from the UK. Twin cylinders and an air tube “button” to cock it would be fun to play around with. Just PA doesn’t have them and rather not deal with certain other websites. I also have no idea on the real world shot count of those guns or the accuracy of that specific model. I know the BSA R-10s are really good though but don’t want another bolt action and according to certain websites they seem to have either 12-20 ft/lbs versions only. =/
You’ll love shooting that rifle so much that you may stop bathing, eating or communicating with family and friends. You may have your teeth rot out because you’ll be thinking: “Why brush my teeth? I can get a few minutes of target practice in.”
Seriously, it’s one of my faves. Awhile back, I pinned a stink bug as a target at 40 yds. One shot hit the pin in the center. I shoot voles with it and it has “dispatched” numerous feral cats and some groundhogs. I have no idea how many squirrels, but it’s in the hundreds. Super accurate. I generally shoot under 70 yds, mostly to make sure the game is hit with precision and fpe.
Specs: takes about 4-5 minutes to hand pump, at a leisurely pace, to 180 bar from 150. Though you can fill to a higher pressure, it’s a waste of air; accuracy suffers and efficiency drops, so 180 is the sweet spot. Easily delivers 20 deadly accurate shots, two mags, with one fill, probably closer to 30, but I have not needed 30 in hunting. Very quiet. I have not had much experience with the power wheel and keep it at max. If I target shoot with max, I hunt with max. JSB 15.9 gr is the diet of choice.
Tips: Use a straw to guide gun cleaning plastic cables/weedeater line w/ patches or a de-bristled snake from muzzle to breech; the shroud is hard to remove.
Pull the cocking lever ALL the way back and hold it there when adding or removing the mag-there’s an indexing spring which is easily bent and indexing will go off. You can bend it back into position, to a point. It’s also easy to get a spare indexing spring (really a strip of metal), just in case. I have one but haven’t needed it.
Poplar stock is very lightweight, easy to handle and beautifully finished. But, it’s a softer wood and prone to dings, so be careful.
Safety comes in several ways: There is a button safety on the trigger. You can load the mag with an empty hole so no pellet goes in when you push the probe forward. And, you can point the gun at the ground/safe direction, pull the cocking lever back (remove mag if you don”t want to load a pellet) HOLD onto the cocking lever while pointing the gun in a safe direction and pull the trigger-slowly allowing the cocking lever to move forward to a stop. Now the hammer spring has no tension; it cannot fire.
If mine was destroyed, I order another one within a week. Even my wife, who’s not a shooter, loves this gun and does pretty well with it.
I have an FX Royale 500 (.25). It’s almost as accurate, delivers about 80 shots at full power (regulated). But, I would not get another one. The Cricket .25 is more accurate. The Royale is very long. Great groups are marred by more fliers than in other guns. If you need a high shot count, it’ll deliver. I do use it for hunting when I wanted the extra shot count and higher fpe. Just don’t assume it’s your fault when you get a few odd poi at distances at/over 40 yds.
Out of the box, either will outshoot a Condor. I had a stock .22 and it’s getting a “makeover”.
Haha, I saw your post in the hunting section. Ew hand pumping! And yeah I know all about the features, only complaint I’ve ever seen was about that safety, but it’s not a big deal to me, I could care less if the gun even had one. I wouldn’t waste the extra money on an FX. I think I’m just going to go with the .25 s510 thumbhole walnut stock for $~1.2k from PA and if the shot count isn’t enough (i doubt it though, even 30 would work on high power) I can always exchange for a twin cyl for only $100 more 🙂 Would just have to decide btwn the regular or carbine version. Would have to handle it too to compare the weight. Heard it’s not too bad though. I know the carbine version would be perfect. I just think the thumbhole stock looks 100x better than the others though.
Thanks for all the info guys, it’s exactly what I’ve been hearing and I pretty much narrowed it down to the 1 gun. I just wanted some opinions to see if I missed any rifle and to get a bit more info on the shot count. What are you guys getting on HIGH power with your .22? I was planning on ordering from PA so incase I didn’t need the power of the .25, or the shot count of the single cylinder wasn’t enough, I could always exchange for a twin or a carbine. They are beautiful guns and have ALL the features I want honestly. Can’t find a single thing “wrong” with them. Just wondering the REAL WORLD hunting shot count from a .25 single cyl long stock? I believe its a 231cc tank…as long as it’s close to 60~ shots I’d be happy. Plus the option to go low/med power for backyard targets and get over 100 shots is perfect 😉 Then switching to high power when in the woods. I was wondering an Airforce gun a LONG time ago when I first thought about PCPs, mostly due to the weight and look. But I’ve bought and modded/customized MANY guns and grown tired of it. Rather just buy something that’s great out of the box, and could maybe benefit from a little tune work, not something that needs hundreds of dollars worth of mods to be comparable to other good rifles.
I believe AA are very good for the money, it’s almost like a Daystate without the lame “electronics” which I honestly find as something I’d rather NOT have. Sure it’d be cool but for a trusty woods gun, rather not have to rely on it and worry about it breaking.
With all that said, can you guys provide some good info on shot counts for S410/S510? I dont want the 400/500 single shots or bolt actions as I already have an Edgun. It’d be nice to see the shot string comparison vs a carbine and long too. Also is there someone in particular I should get in contact with who can tune AA guns here in the US? I know of a few people but not sure if they work with AA. I’d mostly just want them to try and increase shot count/accuracy if possible (mostly by just polishing internals, doing a recrown if needed, etc nothing crazy) and if its a .25 I definetly won’t need a power upgrade.
I just shoot for pest control, small game hunting with friends, and for fun 🙂 So no need for a “benchrest” type rifle and that’s why I wanted something light and easy to carry.
Thanks for all the info brothers! 
I have an AirARMS 410 and it stands toe to toe with any of the other big boys in accuracy.
The reliability is just awesome.
I would buy a AA510 in a heart beat if I needed another rifle
I own an AA S510 FAC, .22…don’t get one!!
You’ll love shooting that rifle so much that you may stop bathing, eating or communicating with family and friends. You may have your teeth rot out because you’ll be thinking: “Why brush my teeth? I can get a few minutes of target practice in.”
Seriously, it’s one of my faves. Awhile back, I pinned a stink bug as a target at 40 yds. One shot hit the pin in the center. I shoot voles with it and it has “dispatched” numerous feral cats and some groundhogs. I have no idea how many squirrels, but it’s in the hundreds. Super accurate. I generally shoot under 70 yds, mostly to make sure the game is hit with precision and fpe.
Specs: takes about 4-5 minutes to hand pump, at a leisurely pace, to 180 bar from 150. Though you can fill to a higher pressure, it’s a waste of air; accuracy suffers and efficiency drops, so 180 is the sweet spot. Easily delivers 20 deadly accurate shots, two mags, with one fill, probably closer to 30, but I have not needed 30 in hunting. Very quiet. I have not had much experience with the power wheel and keep it at max. If I target shoot with max, I hunt with max. JSB 15.9 gr is the diet of choice.
Tips: Use a straw to guide gun cleaning plastic cables/weedeater line w/ patches or a de-bristled snake from muzzle to breech; the shroud is hard to remove.
Pull the cocking lever ALL the way back and hold it there when adding or removing the mag-there’s an indexing spring which is easily bent and indexing will go off. You can bend it back into position, to a point. It’s also easy to get a spare indexing spring (really a strip of metal), just in case. I have one but haven’t needed it.
Poplar stock is very lightweight, easy to handle and beautifully finished. But, it’s a softer wood and prone to dings, so be careful.
Safety comes in several ways: There is a button safety on the trigger. You can load the mag with an empty hole so no pellet goes in when you push the probe forward. And, you can point the gun at the ground/safe direction, pull the cocking lever back (remove mag if you don”t want to load a pellet) HOLD onto the cocking lever while pointing the gun in a safe direction and pull the trigger-slowly allowing the cocking lever to move forward to a stop. Now the hammer spring has no tension; it cannot fire.
If mine was destroyed, I order another one within a week. Even my wife, who’s not a shooter, loves this gun and does pretty well with it.
I have an FX Royale 500 (.25). It’s almost as accurate, delivers about 80 shots at full power (regulated). But, I would not get another one. The Cricket .25 is more accurate. The Royale is very long. Great groups are marred by more fliers than in other guns. If you need a high shot count, it’ll deliver. I do use it for hunting when I wanted the extra shot count and higher fpe. Just don’t assume it’s your fault when you get a few odd poi at distances at/over 40 yds.
Out of the box, either will outshoot a Condor. I had a stock .22 and it’s getting a “makeover”.
Airarms all day long. Well made, reliable and stupidly accurate. The twin cylinder 510 is surprisingly light and well balanced, though most of us Brits find it damn fugly. I never got the chance to shoot it but I didn’t need to. It’s an Airarms. The S400 I had never missed a beat in all the years I had it, nor did the S410. They are as good as any other rifle on the market today, and not crazy expensive(least not over here).
Yeah I already have an edgun no need for a cricket, even if its a carbine…only room for 1 russian bride 🙂
I’ve heard shohit about fx but always the royale had the best reviews. Just not worth the cash imo. If it was the same price as the AA id consider it. What type of shot count did yours get and howcome you sold it?
I actuslly was looking at the evanix rainstorm as well but grohl what I remeber its a lower shot count?like 20?
Honestly the FX500 if you can find one used at the right price would probably make you happy. I had one and regret selling it (the grass is always greener) . only draw back is they are long.
i have no experience with the Air Arms..
Another decent one I’ve been eyeing the Evanix Rainstorms. I wouldn’t buy an AF even though i have a condor… its kinda my tinker gun.
Or the cricket rifle. but you won’t find them used or close 1k. would have to go new
I just meant a power adjuster that doesnt need to take the gun apart to change, like AA or even AF works.
The air arms has all of those things but is cheaper and has a LW barrel which are better at long range than a ST. I’m not really a fan of fx and from what ive heard that may be the right decision lol. how much does that gun weigh with a 500cc bottle though? I not totally opposed to one I just was more partial to ordering from PA due to the nice return system. If I could compare the prices and shot count of the 2 guns thatd help. I’m sure the twin cyl AAis similar and in carbine version it prob weighs a lot less.
Hmmmmmm decisions decisions 😉 if I didn’t need a 2nd nice rifle asap id just save up for a stets hunting rifle $3500 ;(
Also 2 questions…what’s the difference btwn an s410 and s510? Is it true just the stock?
And what about hawke sidwwinder 30 vs Tactical version? Both are similar price and weight just diff size lens?why buy a tac version then?
Power wheel, weight, and shot count, you’ve pretty much narrowed it down to one gun. FX 500
I think that FX is about the only company with a power wheel. unless you want a condor. but i don’t really consider it to have a power wheel even though thats what they call it.
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Yeah I meant if I was going to get a carbine version it’d be twin cyl. I decided I think I’m going to buy a new .25 walnut thumbhole from PA…if it’s not the shotcount I want and is a bit too bulky I’ll trade it in and get the carbine twin cyl, but then I’d have to change to a .22 unless I can get one as a “special order”? Or do they NOT even make the carbine above .22 cal? Not sure why most shot strings I’ve seen of the .25 only gets like a 38 FPE max…kind of pointless getting a .25 if this gun doesn’t push the pellets higher than 40 FPE out of the box… Most .22 cal guns can even do better than that with some power mods.
Oh well, that’s the reason I’m going to go with Pyramyd Air…they let you return/exchange a million times 🙂 Especially if its for store credit they could care less, usually end up making more money that way.