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Quite right about the phones but a separate and much better established industry. The Kalibrguns are CZ remember and not Russian. Ever compared a Chinese AK to a Yugoslav, Romanian or even East German? Any eastern com bloc AK is better than a Chi com.
Ever compare a toyota to a dodge?
When did China make a Toyota? And what’s the comparison to gun manufacturing? It’s not even in the realm.
Make sure you don’t put one of those cheap Chinese AEON scopes on your high dollar Cricket or Ed Gun.
They will not be worthless but they will be worth less. I have two Crickets and don’t think they are worth what I paid for them but I buy all kinds of stuff that isn’t worth what I pay for it. I don’t think the quality is on the same level as my Air Arms or Daystates and the wood is well below. Watch out for the Koreans too. It’s all good as competition always is.
people were forced to buy the edgun or the cricket cause there were no others.
There sales will go down. cause now instead of 2 choices we now have 3. and at a much better price. (more companies are gonna want a slice of the pie)
most of these people are hooked on the look. and if it can perform close they will be sold.
so what happens then??? they flood the market. and who is gonna spend 2k on a gun when they can achieve the same at half the cost.
Those that want the edgun specifically will still buy. ….
its already started Tony sent out an email rallying customers…. when did he ever have to do that. he’s always had a waiting list.
Quite right about the phones but a separate and much better established industry. The Kalibrguns are CZ remember and not Russian. Ever compared a Chinese AK to a Yugoslav, Romanian or even East German? Any eastern com bloc AK is better than a Chi com.
Ever compare a toyota to a dodge?
So now all of us who have EDs and crickets ,our rifles will be worth nothing because of the p-12? Come on ,seriously? Has Ferrari lowered there prices since KIA came along ? They are what they are, if you are Wing and have a full blown machine shop and skills you make a rubber band gun bring down elephants.
Quite right about the phones but a separate and much better established industry. The Kalibrguns are CZ remember and not Russian. Ever compared a Chinese AK to a Yugoslav, Romanian or even East German? Any eastern com bloc AK is better than a Chi com.
I believe that they are all direct. from what i was told by steve. except maybe precision… that bond there with AOA is pretty tight so i would assume they are getting them from AOA
you got that right…
Cheaper Chinese guns will always be that and higher quality will reap higher coin.
Since when do the Russians have a better reputation for quality than the Chinese? The Chinese can do quality if they want to and I expect they are serious about competing with the likes of Kalibr. Who made your phone?
TAG is also getting them from WWAG or direct.
Cheaper Chinese guns will always be that and higher quality will reap higher coin.
I believe the other retailers are getting their guns from AOA as the importer. WWAG is receiving theirs from Kalibrgun. I recall a video or post from SHOT Show where Steve (WWAG) stated that they are the largest Kalibrgun dealer in the world. If that is the case it lends credence to the theory that AOA is pulling a shithead move to eliminate competition and bullpup prices will not recede to anyone’s notions of “where they belong”.
Cheaper Chinese guns will always be that and higher quality will reap higher coin.
They used to sell day state and FX…..
but how can one look yourself in the mirror every morning knowing that your just aiding the devil… so to speak
AOA has a minni manoply going.
they have several brand locked down.
Kalibrgun just happens to be one manufacture that doesn’t do sole importing.
WWAG sell RAW, Crossman, and others too. Just happens that the cricket is one of there hot items. therefore turning into there bread and butter.
They are more than willing to take a loss or break even so that when their smaller competitor
eventually goes out of business they then control the price and will raise it up to whatever people will pay.
Think their service will get any better when they’re the only game? No.
AOA is only game for FX and look at cost of those guns
Yes I’m familiar with the term but don’t think that’s what is at play here. There are several dealers selling Crickets and if one of them sells mainly Crickets, that’s just a poor business plan. You need to be diversified to stay in almost any market. Pups are headed down due to competition and the smart dealers will get out ahead of this trend.
Gunner. You ever hear of the term “loss leader”?
They are more than willing to take a loss or break even so that when their smaller competitor
eventually goes out of business they then control the price and will raise it up to whatever people will pay.
Think their service will get any better when they’re the only game? No.
AOA is only game for FX and look at cost of those guns
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Cheaper Chinese guns will always be that and higher quality will reap higher coin.
Since when do the Russians have a better reputation for quality than the Chinese? The Chinese can do quality if they want to and I expect they are serious about competing with the likes of Kalibr. Who made your phone?
Actually really nothing in the IPhone is made in China. All they do assemble it. Most of it is made elsewhere around the world and shipped there to be assembled.