New member with Talon
Over Columbus Day weekend, I became a owner of a Talon, due to a great price from Midway. I was looking for a lighter weight rifle to replace my 11 pound monster for offhand shooting. At 72, you don’t get stronger, you struggle to keep what you have.
I got the CO2 adapter and it is shooting great. I plan on using it for silhouettes, although, the high scope might prove a little challenging. Air is still a problem, since 4500 psi is unknown around these parts. The budget being what it is, I am looking at a scuba tank and filling to 2500 psi.
So I will be lurking around to learn as much as I can, and to see the neat things that people do with their Talons.
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Now, I have a bipod attached. Whittled down a pic. adapter and used a UTG bipod. Now to try it out.
Finally, got back to shooting the Talon. I had put a Spin-loc tank on it, along with a R&L shroud. Then I had to get a tooth pulled, which was in the general area of my cheek weld. No fun.
I started out at 2500 psi set to a power level of 2. Shot it down to 1500 psi getting 50 shots with no change in impact. Since I am mostly going to be shooting between 10 – 20 yards, it appears to be working.
Next project is a bipod. I looked at the AirForce bipod, but was not impressed because of the price. I have a couple for my other rifles, but they use the sling stud to attach. The AirForce sling attachment did not work out for this type. Trying a pic. Attachment next, wish me luck.
With my condor, I’m getting about 25 shots (power dial set around ‘5’) going from 3000psi to 1500psi, before point of impact changes much at 25 yards. (Favoring H&N Barracuda pellets at the moment, but haven’t tested a broad variety). That’s all based on a single experiment – not to imply that I have broad knowledge. I’ve had the gun only about a week.
GsT
even with a scope, the Talon is still ‘light weight’ compared to many others…my RWS 52 with a scope is heavy.
i’m 72 yrs of age, too… :suprisedn: …i use open sights on my Talon … :suprisedn: …and find it accurate enough to do any thing i care to at the ranges i shoot… :confusedn: :geekn: :biggrinn:
Welcome Ray, I think when your dealing with power 20 shots would be great.
I found the site interesting. I like their model names. I still can’t figure out their shot claim. Have you ever contacted the company about how they pull it off. Maybe with a full tank shot down to zero? I know over here, people want power over shot count.
That would be with High Pressure Air. Others are claiming 200 is a more realistic number. I’ve never shot mine long enough to find out when the pressure drops past a useful level.
C02 isn’t as popular in the UK as it is in the States. As far as I know we can only access it for shooting as 12 gram ‘powerlets’ or 88 gram capsules. I have never seen bulk CO2 offered anywhere in an airgun publication or shooting shop.
If you have the interst take a look at the Gunpower website on ” http://www.gunpower.net/about/ ” for their ‘blurb’ and UK model details.
Do you mean 500 shots with air or CO2?
I definitely plan on getting a spin-loc tank, so I have a visual aid.
A manometer is an excellent idea, Ray. I don’t have that facility and generally top-up my tank after about 50 or so shots. I start with a fill of only 170bar (about 2500psi) as recommended by Geoff at Gunpower and, by the time I’ve done my 50-60 I’m down to 110 bar (just shy of 1600psi). I’ve read of shooters going down to 95bar (1400psi) before the shots start dropping badly so I think you’re about right.
The stated shot count from the Gunpower website is 500 from a full charge and I would be pleased (and amazed) if anyone can verify that figure.
MAKE SURE THIS IS LEGAL TO MAKE/OWN IN YOUR STATE BEFORE ASSEMBLING
I bought a pre-used ‘Gunpower Stealth’ but was unhappy with its very loud report and decided to make a non-engineered moderator as I have no metal machining facility. This project produced a moderator of 180mm (150mm beyond the muzzle end) and has been favourably compared with the G.P. ‘bean can’.
Materials:
1) 25mm diameter tubing (Mop handle used here)
2) Hair curlers, 2 sizes
3) Polyester wadding
4) ‘Scotchbrite’ scouring pad
5) Steel washer, 25 x M8
6) 8mm punch (Ebay)
7) Neoprene rubber (£1 shop tablet case)
8) Duct tape
Preparation:
Starting with floor mop; knock off the friction fit plastic handle and cut away the hanging hook leaving a 10mm hole. Cut a section of the steel tube around 180mm long, 30mm of which will slide into the muzzle of the rifle. Wrap the small diameter hair curlers (I.D. of 8mm) in polyester wadding and slide this into the larger curlers. The larger curlers should be the ‘velcro’ type. Prepare the curlers and then cut each in half with a craft knife. Using a piece of 25mm tubing, filed to a cutting edge, punch discs from the neoprene rubber and make an 8mm hole in the centre of each. Glue one of these rubber ‘washers’ onto one end of each prepared curler half. Five half curlers plus one whole, unmodified curler were required for this build. Cut five further 25mm ‘washers’ from the Scotchbrite pad, align on a pencil, and glue lightly together into a stack.
Assembly:
Drop the steel washer into the plastic handle and press onto the tubing firmly. This supports the next component.
Take the Scotchbrite washer stack and, using a ramrod cut from the thinner tubing of the mop handle, push firmly down the tube.
Assemble the half curler baffles into the tube using the ram-rod and follow with the whole curler. The aim is to bring the last curler just proud of the end of the tubing to provide slight compression to the components when on the rifle.
Remove the muzzle end cap and retaining ring and slide the unit into the frame. If there is a slight looseness of fit wrap that end with duct tape. One full turn of tape should be enough.
It will be necessary to drill a small hole to allow the end cap retaining ring’s grub screw to hold it in place.
This specification was a prototype and, no doubt, longer units with more baffles will perform better. The total cost of this build was around £5 for the scouring pads, hair curlers and 8mm punch, all other items were ‘in stock’ in my shed.
NOTE
These dimensions are not ‘set in stone’ and just seemed to look proportionate to the rifle.
+1. I just got one also.
And would you mind sharing the details of your moderator – I need to keep noise levels down too?
Libra56, since you have experience in this area, what pressure should I shoot down to? I was thinking 1500 psi, or would that be too low.
I definitely plan on getting a spin-loc tank, so I have a visual aid.
Nice to have you, Ray. At 2500psi you’re a candidate for the sub 12fpe strand. In the UK the recommended ‘sweet spot’ fill pressure is 170 bar (2500psi though I expect you know this) so it’s the right place to start. No point in wasting 30 bar from a full tank.
You’ll need to pick your info from this site with care as not all the mods and tips relate to lower powered rifles. I hope you enjoy your new Talon! If you need to keep the noise down I have built a moderator specific to these rifles which could not be used on a powder burner and I will happily share the design (no engineering needed).
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I have to agree there Ray…. Got myself a NCStar Uni Bipod works well