Degassing Question-.25
Ok, I’ve got 2350 shots through my second Matador .25 and have been into the guts 6 times, in the course of the learning, cleaning and fine tuning process. These guns are fun and simple to play with and I love the tune-ability. Here’s my question. Utilizing Ed’s method of degassing, has anyone come up with a way to keep from blowing out the breech/probe o ring? I bear the gun on the gauge end of the air tube, to keep the muzzle open and clear but blow the o ring out every time. I catch it with a rag but don’t like having to fish it back into the detent every time. Got this down to a 1-2 minute process (magic fingers as Ed says), as I don’t like the idea of removing the bushing every time, given the difficulty in removing it and jeopardizing the small set screw…and yes, I shoot it down to 90-100 bar.
Is the only alternative to buy the degassing tool?
Thanks in advance, Steve
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You can do it without that tool too brother[WINKING FACE] eddy is made to be serviced with only a hex key
Guys…
when i received my Edgun almost two years ago. …directly my Edgun brother Tedd (Oldgoat) has shipped a degassing tool with a full life time o-rings for my Edgun….see this post
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=27783&hilit=oldgoat+helpful+guy&start=60
And i posted fully details in a thread that i posted all related to my Edgun… that tool is handmade by Brother Tedd himself. ..i can do the reg set within less than 15 mnts…very useful tool….
I tried your allen wrench trick, and it really pissed me off……this worked so slick that I’m mad I didn’t figure it out for myself. 😳 Had the perfect allen wrench, for the job and no more shot of air in the face, no more lost o ring, no more time wasted with “magic fingers” o ring installation and last but not least, no need for extra tools or expense. It even facilitates a more intuitive and streamlined disassembly process. I was hating removing screws and action, with the bolt and hammer at the ready to fire and a charged air tube and trigger fully exposed to the lightest inadvertent bump, through the process. This makes better sense as the trigger assembly is removed and the air is released and leaves no chance for a misfire, at any point in disassembly. kudos dude. :bow:
I’m glad I could help in a way.
I tried your allen wrench trick, and it really pissed me off……this worked so slick that I’m mad I didn’t figure it out for myself. 😳 Had the perfect allen wrench, for the job and no more shot of air in the face, no more lost o ring, no more time wasted with “magic fingers” o ring installation and last but not least, no need for extra tools or expense. It even facilitates a more intuitive and streamlined disassembly process. I was hating removing screws and action, with the bolt and hammer at the ready to fire and a charged air tube and trigger fully exposed to the lightest inadvertent bump, through the process. This makes better sense as the trigger assembly is removed and the air is released and leaves no chance for a misfire, at any point in disassembly. kudos dude. :bow:
I wonder if the Reg tester/setter comes with a degas tool, as I have ordered one.
Yes. I have used large Craftsman screwdriver with a square shaft that way. Just wrap the other end of the tube in a towel and make sure you have a solid surface and use both hands. After doing it this way you will really appreciate a degas tool when you get one.
what if the breach/barrel is removed from the airtube before degassing. You can push the valve pin with any flat surface item
Thanks, my friends. :8:
Thanks, I did see this and checked out the ebay link but the brake line adaptor just said sold. I construed this as to mean not available. I’m prone to “pay the fiddler” for one prefabbed, as my time is limited by 100s of hours at the bench. :rofl:
I checked it out and I did see the sold notice. However it also identified below that notice alternative places to buy the same part for $4.00. Or just google “Brake Line Thread Adapter, Male M10 x 1 Inverted, Female M12 x 1 Inverted” and it will come up.
I LIKE…trick of the trade is what I was looking for…I’ll give this a try. Thanks
Thanks, I did see this and checked out the ebay link but the brake line adaptor just said sold. I construed this as to mean not available. I’m prone to “pay the fiddler” for one prefabbed, as my time is limited by 100s of hours at the bench. :rofl:
I remove the trigger mechanism and leave the breach than use an allen key to push the valve by mounting the alen like a hummer between the back of the gun and the valve
A degassing tool makes the whole process easier and much more controllable. You can make the tool for under $10. You will be glad you did. Check earlier posts for details.
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when i received my Edgun almost two years ago. …directly my Edgun brother Tedd (Oldgoat) has shipped a degassing tool with a full life time o-rings for my Edgun….see this post
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=27783&hilit=oldgoat+helpful+guy&start=60
And i posted fully details in a thread that i posted all related to my Edgun… that tool is handmade by Brother Tedd himself. ..i can do the reg set within less than 15 mnts…very useful tool….
Thanks Hemn…next time, give Gerard’s method a try, if you’re so inclined. I assume you have to remove the stock, trigger guard and bolt assembly to use the mentioned degassing tool then go back and remove the trigger assembly. The side benefit with Gerard’s sequence is, at no time, are you removing screws and the bolt assembly, with a charged gun, exposed trigger and the action set to fire. The pressure is released, with the probe/bolt in the closed position, retaining the o ring and all air is discharged down the barrel. Also, disassembly sequence seems a bit more intuitive, IMHO…start at the bottom and work up. With the correct allen wrench, there is no concern for damage to the valve rod. Wrong allen wrench…you might have a problem.