What’s a micro meter tank?
Well, as per the title really. I’ve seen micro meter tanks mentioned but can’t seem to find out what they are, anyone know?
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I have a .22 barrel on both rigs.
One is a 24″ for target shooting. With this barrel and the micro-meter valve I can keep the air demand low because the barrel can bring the velocity back. So I can shoot a lot more and more accurately. I use a aperture + globe sight on this one.
The other rig has a 12″ barrel with the TalonP tank. This is set for 10 high-power shots with heavy pellets for hunting larger critters. It has a scope on it.
Velocity is in excess of 950. Took a while to get a good tune but I am very happy with this.
The standard talon tank floats between the two rigs depending on what kinda fun I want 🙂
Why is not the 24″ barrel on the hunting rig? Because I wanted a very compact and short hunting rifle that break down and fits in a backpack. The 24″ barrel would be phenomenal for power but it is too long for my pack. I basically have a TalonSS-P but I added a butt to the bottle so it shoots like a rifle.
From your notes I am still not sure about your application. There is nothing wrong making a Talon work like a Condor, but you don’t need much power just for plinking/target shooting. Hi-power is good for hunting or if you want to shoot very far. Maybe you are into that. A lot of shooters here like target practice in the 50-100yds. Some more. That requires a rig to push medium to heavy pellet very far. In that case I would go for 24″ barrels.
As far as the caliber, I like .22 for a few reasons:
1) It is an efficient and versatile caliber, the ballistic coefficient of several pellets is very good and you can shoot anything from 10gr to 33gr.
2) It is easily found everywhere and it is cheap even for the expensive stuff.
3) I don’t hunt anything bigger than a coon/small foxes so I don’t need the .25
4) For target shooting I could use .177 but the price of the pellets is pretty much the same so I stick to one interchangeable platform for now.
The .25 is awesome for larger critters or longer distances. Very stable and very powerful, also more expansive in average. During winter I target shoot maybe 500-750 pellets a week so the .25 would be expensive.
The .25 also requires more air and you start needing a scuba tank and refilling rigs cause pumping is not fun 🙂 (unless you also want to do your gym time while you practice shooting)
I would love a .25 for hunting if I had any larger critters, But we don’t have hogs here or hard hides.
I hope this helps.
If I can give you my 2c: I don’t know your shooting level nor what is your kinda fun, but I would say go out there, practice, play, have fun with what you have. A better gun might shoot harder and more accurately, but if you suck at shooting it will shoot as bad as a $20 rubber slinger. So have fun and keep your money until you really feel you have surpassed the gun potentials. Then with that experience, go invest in all the improvements you need or a better gun overall. That is unless you have a very specific application you want to build the gun for.
Have fun, and be safe.
Cheers
Chris
Is your talon ss running a standard 12″ barrel? What cal have you got? Just curious what setup you have and how it runs with the different valves?
I’m probably going to replicate the condor ss with my gun, switch out the barrel to 18″, probably 22 cal and go with a high flow valve, I’m curious what gains are to be had by going 25 cal in that setup, and what gains might be seen by going high flow with my current setup.
As far as working on the valve I’m pretty confident, I suppose you could create problems if you don’t know what you’re doing but the main thing is never to screw with the bottle, I’ve seen folks drilling holes for pressure gauges just recently online, once you pull a stunt like that you’ve lost the bottles structural integrity and created a potential disaster.
The safest and best way to get a different valve setup is to by a different tank already setup.
Unless you know what you are doing I would not play with devices that are under hi-pressure such as the PCP tanks.
It might cost you a little more to get a new, ready tank, but at least you can swap on the fly and go from hi power to plinking in seconds.
There lots of shooters here with experience in working with hi pressure valves and stuff. If you are experienced, go for it.
I have 1 micro meter, 1 standard, and 1 TalonP tank with is a direct flow (hi-flow) tank.
I cover all my shooting applications with the 3 tanks using them on 2 different talonSS rigs. One is constantly for hunting, the other is for light critters and indoor shooting.
and, when you get an extra tank, sooner or later you’ll buy a frame, then a barrel and there, you have a second AF gun 🙂
Enjoy your shooting!
Cheers
Chris
Mines a standard Talon ss, it has a standard flow tank and shoots ok, plenty of room for improvement of course. I’d like to convert my current valve to high flow and go to either an 18″ 22 or 25 cal barrel.
I found out that the micro meter valve has a tiny air hole at the tank end of the valve, this allows the valve to fill to pressure then allow only that “metered” amount of air out in the short time the valve is open. I think I’ll get one of these tanks for indoor target work and plinking around the garden eventually.
Right now I’m most interested in getting better flow from my current valve, I’d like to switch the internals to high flow but so far im not certain this can be done, maybe the valve body is different?
Hi,
I believe the stem is the same as for the standard, but the valve itself (in the tank collar) is actually more constricted.
You would have to take the collar off the tank and replace the inner valve.
It doesn’t make much sense to try to switch it all the time.
Instead you can try using a tophat with inserts such as the Talon Tunes tophat, but I don’t think that is geared for very low flow. Infact the TT tophat is for the hi-flow valve.
What are you interested in doing?
What valve/tank do you currently have?
I mean how is the flow limited? Is this something that could be done to a regular valve and keep the possibility of converting it back again? Certainly more lower power, constant velocity shots would be a plus when paper punching.
Hi,
I am not sure I understand what you mean with metered?
What do you mean?
Thanks Chris, I like the sound of the micro flow valve for indoor paper targets. Do you happen to know how the air is metered?
Hello,
A micro-meter tank has a reduced flow valve.
It was developed mostly for target shooting because it is able to keep a very consistent low velocity for many shots.
I use it for 10m indoor practice and I can get 300 shots with very acceptable spread.
Adjusting the power wheel and tophat allows you to set it on 12fpe if needed.
I practice on an indoor biathlon target as well, and a fill seems to last forever.
Not for hunting though. You could use it but only for very small game.
At least I would not ethically advise it for applications other than target and plinking.
Cheers
Chris
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Wow thanks Chris, what a response. I’m actually interested in target shooting and I do shoot up to 75 yards, or thereabouts.
I’m pretty well practiced, I used to be very capable at one time, not as great these days but still good enough to require a reasonable setup.
As you mentioned, to shoot at range with an air rifle you have to have a good amount of power and go with a pretty heavy pellet. At the moment I’m shooting 21g pellets in my stock Talon SS and to be honest the performance isn’t that bad at all, i’d like to improve the power but I’m struggling more with is the trigger than the power at the moment. I have the earlier trigger and while not being the worst trigger in the world it’s certainly bad enough to effect accuracy.
My needs are good power and accuracy with the ability to shoot at range.
I will go with a larger barrel but nothing bigger than 18″ as I don’t want to effect the length of the gun.
I won’t be hunting with this gun so cal isn’t a huge concern but as above, I do need to send a fairly heavy pellet down range with a good amount of power.
I’m wondering what sort of gun I’d have if I went with the high flow condor valve, 18″ 22cal barrel, weighted hammer and 6.2lb hammer spring.
I’m also wondering what improvements I can make to the trigger