How does your Vulcan Safety work :?:
Safety operation:
Mine would engage very well after cocking the hammer mechanism so I let it be and went on to do a few mods. After all, I see some bullpups don’t have a safety.
Finally returned to tune up the safety and after a little polishing/honing and reassembly including the detent bearing and tiny spring that played hide-n-seek on the kitchen floor, the safety was now stuck in the on position. But that was my fault for assembling it in the on position without the mechanism being cocked.
If I had been careful to assemble it in the off position I would not have discovered what came next.
Mistakenly thinking I had accidentally turned the trigger link adjustment, I attempted to correct it by shortening the link one turn.
OK that apparently fixed my problem and as a BONUS I can now set the safety before cocking the hammer. That makes it even safer for me.
😳 Wait a minute…the safety used to block the trigger solidly when cocked. Now there is a slight trigger wiggle ❓
It is very acceptable and only a small trade off for being able to engage the safety before cocking.
The slight wiggle may be a product of an unconventional trigger mod I made. That’s why I’ve bored you all with this as I would like to know how your safety works.
1) does your safety set easily before cocking ❓
2) does your trigger have any wiggle with safety on while Not Cocked ❓
3) does your trigger have any wiggle with safety on while hammer is Cocked ❓
4) does your foot have a hole in it yet from some other bullpup that doesn’t have a safety ❓
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Issue I have is when decocking gun I forget to engage clip rotation lock switch. Resulting in a dry fire
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I totally agree that a safety should not be relied on as a 100% mechanical stop to firing. However, will fess up how I got within a 1/4″ of putting a 25 pellet through my hand. It was complete carelessness on my part.
Most of my shooting is at ground squirrels that pop up out of the ground one minute and then dodge back the next at the slightest noise and this occurs over and over again sometimes waiting 20 minutes for them to appear between shots. It may be laziness but I would spend quite a bit of time cocking and uncocking my air rifle between shots…uncocking involves pulling the bolt back, removing the magazine (in most cases), pulling the trigger while slowing moving the bolt forward. Then the next shot is without the magazine so there is no quick follow up shot available etc. The best alternative to me is to keep the gun loaded in the field and the muzzle always pointed in a safe direction…like the sky in my case. My problem occurred with the muzzle pointing in the air waiting on a target to appear one handed. I lost my balance and as the Vulcan started to fall, I instinctively reached out with my left hand to catch the falling barrel. Due to the short length, my hand extended over the end of the rifle as I accidently hit the trigger. I actually had to inspect my hand to see if there was a hole in it as I knew there was a pellet in the bore. All I can figure is I was lucky and my hand stayed on the air reservoir pressure gauge and below the barrel or I shot between my fingers…don’t know for sure.
Lessons Learned to me if not practical while hunting to repeatedly uncock…1. always point the gun in a safe direction and completely stable with both hands. 2. Apply safety as a potential back up. Don’t rely on it with total disregard but if I would have applied the safety in my careless near miss, I am nearly 100% sure my Vulcan would have never fired. Maybe I really didn’t learn my lesson and should be uncocking between each shot?
Wanted to add, I always keep my finger out of the guard…not sure how it ended up in the guard during my accident but it did.
Ok I been following this thread for a while my two cents is like keyser says it definitely is not a added layer of safety but a false sense of security which can lead to a accidentally fire the only way for the gun to be safe is to de cock the fucking gun!! Period! Ludicrous that u would leave the hammer engaged under spring tension with a safety on it will make u complacent u should be in the habit of de cocking it u can re cock it alsmost as fast as taking safety off its fractions of a second longer I don’t see the benefits of using the safety I’ve never used mine ever the Vulcan is so fast and easy to cock begs the question why risk it I learned this the hard way I shot a hole in my glove Box in my truck while it was laying on my center console thanx for not ratting me out Sosa but I learned the hard way so hands down the safety is bullshit lest be warned
It’s not a layer of safety. It doesn’t manner of it’s engaged or not. My buddy shot the floor of his truck with the “safety” engaged. Because a bullpup has a linkage trigger it shouldn’t be used. Ed has it right. No safety,just the ability to decock the gun.
2. No trigger movement when uncocked
3. About a 1/16″ movement in trigger when cocked with safety on
4. Almost shot my hand
AJ,
I personall believe this is how the safety should be adjusted to work. But a fine adjustment is maybe overlooked.
It was OK the other way but having a choice and adjusting things to my own liking is what I am about.
keyser,
I agree that no one should rely on a safety because of the human factor.
But think about it, AJ’s and my Vulcan are capable of disableing the trigger before the gun is cocked therefore eliminating one of a few ways the gun could be accidentally discharged. No I don’t rely on it but I appreciate having the potential of an extra layer of safety.
In my opinion a PCP gun shouldn’t have a safety. I think it is a dangerous addition to any PCP. These PCP guns are simple mechanisms. They do not have intercepting sears. They also work in a manner that makes them inherently prone to accidental discharge. Because a hammer can fall on the valve without the trigger sear ever being engaged I do not leave my guns cocked. If a shot doesn’t present itself then I flip the ROT and decock the gun. It is the only safety you should use.
1. My safety works cocked and uncocked
2. No trigger movement when uncocked
3. About a 1/16″ movement in trigger when cocked with safety on
4. Almost shot my hand
When adjusting trigger you have to keep in mind the safety. You can set it so it doesn’t even work
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My safety will not lock until it cock
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No, but my windshield does 😳 :8:
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Good point eelect. By discussing our issues we can all benefit.
Thanks all, I got what I needed from this thread knowing that it would end up in with strong opinions being freely expressed as usual here on TAG.
Individuals that poo poo the mention of a safety are truly expressing the fact that not even a hammer is safe unless the potential for damage is kept in the forefront of our thoughts weather we are the user or merely in the vicinity.
Anti-gunners would like to use our concerns to support their chickenshit fears but the truth is their biggest fear has always been their fear to embrace in a responsible manor the dangerous powers that will always exist, be it gun, hammer, stick, stone or whatever.
Of course I was once wrong but that was just to experience what it would be like. 😎