Action Wiggles in Stock
Does anyone else’s action seem loose in the stock? My .22’s action wiggles left/right about 0.5 mm even when the stock bolt are tight.
The rear of the action was also loose and that I took care of with some electrical tape on the action, but the front wiggles a bit.
I can feel it shift during cocking and when picking up the gun. The air tube easily shifts left/right about 0.5 mm to hand pressure.
I’m thinking I need to glass bed the air tube and stock. The rear portion of the stock I’m not wanting to bed because of
all the linkages that could be messed up. On the other, the forward section under the air but seems pretty safe to bed.
Gun shoots well, but it is annoying to feel the action shift about.
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got the epoxy puty in. half stick in under the rear action just under the HSadjuster, it is rock solid now.
Never had that problem. I agree plastic bedding the AT being a bad idea. That tape version of bedding may just work though. Was i to bed in something it would be the action/breech and the trigger mech.
No problems with POI with the stabilized stock.
It is really nice having the action and stock feel solidly joined together. No squeaks. No weird movements during the cocking cycle.
With the plastic rectangle in place, the HST clears enough for a John Hagan adjustment tool to fit. That tool’s shaft diameter is bigger than the pin spacing so I didn’t try using until after raising the action. Once I raised the action to get enough clearance for the tool, i was surprised to find the Hagan tool itself needed thinning of the pins with a diamond file and sanding sticks to fit my HST adjuster. The pins were a few hundredths too close together to fit.
Now everything fits together like a glove. Action stable in stock. Hagan tool in HST adjuster.
guyko adding the block did not casue any POI issues? the squeaking stopped when i put ducktape on the bottom half of the clamps, but the back -the action is is too lose for my taste.
the new style power adjuster has got a hex hole around the cocking indicator instead of the excentric 2 little holes.
If I had one I could tell you If it’s tight……..
In the rear of the stock I placed a rectangular block of plastic to raise the action. That keeps the back stable and raises the action high enough for the HST adjuster to clear the stock. Otherwise, the bottom of my HST adjuster was about 0.5 mm below the stock. It could not freely back out. I never suspected it was below the stock until I scratched the bottom of the stock’s round inlet for the HST while backing out the adjuster.
With the plastic rectangle in place, the HST clears enough for a John Hagan adjustment tool to fit. That tool’s shaft diameter is bigger than the pin spacing so I didn’t try using until after raising the action. Once I raised the action to get enough clearance for the tool, i was surprised to find the Hagan tool itself needed thinning of the pins with a diamond file and sanding sticks to fit my HST adjuster. The pins were a few hundredths too close together to fit.
Now everything fits together like a glove. Action stable in stock. Hagan tool in HST adjuster.
what mine does is as I rest my cheek or push on the end of the action, it is squeaking like floor boards do.
it is floating in the back, i guess it is by design like that.
maybe I make up some 2 part epoxy puty or something to support the back
can this floating in the back cause change of POI any idea? the gun shoots pretty good but everything can be improved hehehe
Got this sorted. First, the eight trigger mechanism mounting screws were slightly loose. That was part of the problem, but not all. The inletting was still generous enough to allow some lateral shifting. Since the forum wisdom seems to be against bedding the air tube, I shimmed the upper portion of the store fore end. Several layers of aluminum tape were added to just the right thickness. I made the strips about 8 mm wide to shim against just lateral movement. The aluminum tape is basically non-compressible once burnished down, but easy to remove. Action now sits solidly in the stock.
I don’t like action wiggles either. Fortunately, my .22 vulcan is tight but I have an el cheapo ar-15 with play and it drives me nuts.
Can you feel the fasteners in the stock wiggle with the top action? If so, I wonder if shortening the fastener a tad (or adding a washer to experiment) would be an answer?
Jeff
In my experience, even when working with the most precise nuts, screws and bolts; constantly removing and tightening will cause the parts to not fit as precisely as when manufactured. I’m not surprised if things become loose or do not fit properly. This is why I choose not to fux with my guns when I have minimal problems. Instead I will wait until a major problem, if one occurs, and then consult the designer/manufacturer for solutions. As we have seen from many on this forum Evgeny will stand behind his products. Just sayin :whistle:
Fishy asshole set aside for now, is there a spacer in the screw hole for the front nolt:?:
Potting an air tank isn’t a good idea IMO. The tank needs room to expand and contract.
Not sure I want to learn how you know how tight that “that” is.
Definitely don’t want to see any pictures of how you found out.
Mines tighter than a fishes asshole….
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I do want to add that John Hagan would have corrected the adjuster, but it was quick and easy to take care of it myself.
His tool is by far superior to the one I made out of a tire patch tool.
Also, his shroud extension is an exact fit that is flush and aligns perfectly.