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Ban or not Ban on Mutant Attack

I never saw until now an airgun dealer participates so vigorously in a forum to bashing and attack certain brand of gun. From this, the motivation and intention are very clear. He was banned a few years ago. I didn’t follow the story fully because I was really tired of his unreasonable criticisms and bashings, but remembered vividly his threatening toward Ed by flooding with Chinese made Edgun. First, I sympathize with him that his Edgun bolt might have some defects (I don’t understand what he was talking about, but remembered his angry face and loud voices pointing to the bolt) but not get serviced by the local dealer. Then he viciously attacked the Edgun and put up numerous videos to bashing the gun and the local dealer. But somehow, Ed sent him a new bolt and he apologized to Ed in his video in public with his brother’s English translation and then somehow he became an airgun dealer in his country, fanatically promoting and bashing some other brand of guns. Please correct me if my memory is incorrect.

I have both Edgun and the Mutant that the guns he hates the most since he is a dealer for other bullpups. I don’t see anything wrong in my guns on what he pointed out in his videos. Many end users in the States do not have his bad experience on those guns, although some small glitches may occur like every other product through manufacture processes. He might get substandard parts from some other countries and start his attack. I have seen many “unofficial” parts, including barrels, that are available in China for Edgun, KalibrGun, FX, AF and many others, and of course, the Mutant is not immune. Or the manufactures may use some substandard parts and sell it cheap to other countries if the dealer or importer wants to cut the price. The existence of different “Mutant Strains” may be true for this purpose. Corolla and Avalon are cars at different categories but made by the same company. If I want to buy Toyota car with 170K, they will bring me to see Corolla, but not Avalon. I don’t know… The “parts” are so easy to get nowadays as long as you know where to get them. You can get an “Atlas” bipod from China for $40-45 (something like that), of course it is substandard, but functional. When he attacked Edgun, he said he will invest $ in China to bring down Edgun by flooding Ed with fake Edguns. So he must have some connections with Chinese factories for this purpose…who knows, although it is a logical speculation.

I don’t know what’s wrong with this guy. If he is complaining on the quality of the Mutant as he has already expressed in many previous posts, with the consideration of many of us who own the gun and don’t have the same experience of his and disagree with him, then he should move on or go to Ukrainian forum or his own forum to bitch about it and/or to the manufacturer, but not here in the TAG. Why he always stirs up TAG and AGN but not Yellow or other forums? Simply because these two sites are the most visit sites for the bullpups, which certainly can influence his business in his country based on the popularity of the Mutant in the States. So, his intension and motivation are very clear to me. Many Mutant owners, including me, are happy with her performance and accuracy, with some negative impact from the recent “Barrel Gate,” who cares about whom and where the gun/part were made. The fact is the machining of the Mutant is superb.

I think we should end this drama, or let it continue, with the wisdom from Walk. He banned him before and certainly can do it again. But I would like to propose a vote here to see if we should ban him PERMANENTLY with no mistake, by simply setting up a poll with some simple clicks by Walk. What do you think?

He may call me racist, but it is okay, since my wife also says the same to me because I like certain breed of dogs and cats but not others, if this is the same case.

Regards,
Endo

Taipan Air Rifles

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quote endothelium:

Mughram, thanks for sharing.

I think we should end this thread.

Regards,
Endo

Agree.. Thanks Endo

quote LarryW22:

I had no idea what SniperQ8y was saying but what every it was, he said it with passion. I will miss the opportunity to see all those wonderful TOYS!!

Regards
LarryW

+1 the guy work with them in a passion. Seems so dedicated and have great skill set

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I had no idea what SniperQ8y was saying but what every it was, he said it with passion. I will miss the opportunity to see all those wonderful TOYS!!

Regards
LarryW

Mughram, thanks for sharing.

I think we should end this thread.

Regards,
Endo

Dear Adham

he doesn’t want to know 🙂 trust me in that …. we know that he will attack before we announce any product we have ( robertlane reg : not good why ? because you’ve got to make a drill ? duh .. Valiant optics : not good because i cannot bring it so i have nothing to lose to say so ! … Falcon optics : FFP not good to Airguns why ? because you cannot shoot beyond +160yards or so .. duh there is something called adjust ring / turret clicks !! Mutant not good why ? because the transport so big and it has recoil !! all those attacks for Mutant dealer in Kuwait … why ? because mutant dealer stand against him when he attack Edgun dealer !! and now its pay time what a joke …. anyways

in return he must get some excuse that what he does with ( previous attacks )

i dont wanna open this subject but hopefully he focus into his work and quit attacking … if he knows his products then he doesn’t have to prove anything … but he doesn’t have faith into him self …

in the end .. this has to be end 🙂 because your problems in Kuwait must be in Kuwait :1:

Thank you Adham.

I like Edgun too and I have 2, and I am getting my 2nd Mutant very soon.
I saw you have an excellent collection of guns…

TAG helps me a lot not only in airgun but also some “entertainments” that you can enjoy in a lousy day.

People here are friendly and helping each other in general. I have received so many helps and learned a lot from folks here as you can see in many of my previous posts. Sometimes I feel I am stepping into an “uncivilized” jungle and boys are playing rough :winkn: , it is a good place to share our common hobby – the airgun.

Have fun.

Regards,
Endo

quote endothelium:

Adham,

Thanks for sharing.

Same here in my standard mutant. It is CZ200 barrel. I can even show him the picture of my barrel and all dimensions for his comparison if he asked…

I don’t understand what he was asking or talking about. People have encouraged him to be more communicable, but he seemed to ignore it. If someone like you knows what he is pursuing and can help him out in the beginning, things would be different. I believe everyone here, the Mutant owners, would be happy to address his questions or issues if we knew what the questions were. The development of the Mutant drama has been out of control and become destructive, not to the Mutant but to the TAG community. It needs to be ended one way or the other, just my opinion.

Happy valentines day to you too.

Regards,
Endo

Thanks Endo… And I would like to take the opportunity to thank you for your post about the Edgun R3. Became my favorite gun ever since.

Best regards
Adham

quote keyser soze:

Adham I didn’t understand what he was asking. I will answer the question now that I understand what is being asked.

My mutant standard has a CZ200 barrel. I don’t know if they were taken off CZ 200 guns or if they were purchased as leftover stock. My mutant standard had 3 dimples on the top of the barrel which is an indication that the barrel was from a CZ 200

Thanks soze.. I really trust many people here when they say the gun is a great shooter.
Best regards
Adham

quote DanT55:

Dude, where can I catch the rest of your Avatar gif? Lol.

Love the mutant man! Good bye sniper homo.

DT

ha, the girl standing up is leadpecker in full cross dress attire and the other girl is his sister-wifes best friend, don’t ask me how I got a hold of the pic though 🙄 🙄 :rofl:

Adham,

Thanks for sharing.

Same here in my standard mutant. It is CZ200 barrel. I can even show him the picture of my barrel and all dimensions for his comparison if he asked…

I don’t understand what he was asking or talking about. People have encouraged him to be more communicable, but he seemed to ignore it. If someone like you knows what he is pursuing and can help him out in the beginning, things would be different. I believe everyone here, the Mutant owners, would be happy to address his questions or issues if we knew what the questions were. The development of the Mutant drama has been out of control and become destructive, not to the Mutant but to the TAG community. It needs to be ended one way or the other, just my opinion.

Happy valentines day to you too.

Regards,
Endo

Adham I didn’t understand what he was asking. I will answer the question now that I understand what is being asked.

My mutant standard has a CZ200 barrel. I don’t know if they were taken off CZ 200 guns or if they were purchased as leftover stock. My mutant standard had 3 dimples on the top of the barrel which is an indication that the barrel was from a CZ 200

Hello to all.
I did not want to comment on Sniper’s issue with the Mutant when he was around. Now, since he has been banned from TAG i would like to say my opinion. Someone in Kuwait criticized the Vulcan being of low quality just before the introduction of The mutant in Kuwait. This someone appeared to be associated with the Mutant dealer ( who is a very nice guy ) . Sniper took it as a challenge and bought a Mutant to make a comparison, he posted (his findings) and opinion on his YouTube channel . I beleive by then his ban on TAG was lifted, so he wanted to share those (findings) with more experienced people. Hence, the first post , where he asked whether the CZ barrel on the Mutant new or taken off another rifle and altered to fit the Mutant. Hell broke open on him . He was attacked and called names, but no one realy answerd his question. Was it a genuine barrel made for the Mutant? Did you get the same barrel on your guns? No.
Easiest solution was to bring back his history in TAG and ask to remove him once and foreve!! What makes TAG different than AGN ?! I personally find TAG more informative and helpful than any other forum . And far more tolerant than any. But all went wrong with Sniper.

Thanks and best regards
Happy valentines day to all

Adham

Thank goodness he is gone.

He is an embarrassment

The forum is better without him

quote Cricket:

In the spirit of oak, bye Creepy Guy from Kuwait :rofl:

Dude, where can I catch the rest of your Avatar gif? Lol.

Love the mutant man! Good bye sniper homo.

DT

Anyone can take any Airgun gun apart and find many problems in it if he’s absurdly nitpicky about every single freakin part and design.

There’s no such thing as Perfect Airgun and never will be, if so it’ll be a sad day for all !

But, for an Airgun to make it to this level it’s the best-in-class (la cream of the crop) and all high-end (great) Airguns in my book.

my :2cents: ~ Greg

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