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New sooth twist barrels.

I don’t know how many of you get the English airgun mags over there so I may get very little response but if you have seen it what do you think of Ben Taylor’s (the Ben in Theoben) new smooth twist barrel design.
For those that haven’t seen it the barrel is smooth bored with the twist compressed from the out side on the last few centimetres of the barrel. The barrel is more accurate than rifled barrels with more differing types of pellet and more importantly just changing the barrel gives a good increase in output power with the same amount of air.
When in production the barrels should be a lot cheaper than rifled barrels and they should be an easy swap for Gunpower rifles.

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Its actually less than that but its still an increase or an air saving.

That’s still 10%… 😉

The test rifle went from 12fp to 13fp. 😉

What about the power increase?
If it is indeed as significant as they say, that alone would make in interesting, right?

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quote Tyke:

Terry Doe did the testing and he recons everything is as advertised and I would never call Terry a liar. One of the main reasons I’m ready for it is that the barrel isn’t pellet fussy, I’m using Webley Mosquitoes at the moment as they are the best for my barrel but the price of these is getting out of control so if I can find another pellet of the same weight that does the same job I’m sorted.

You guys over there crack me up :):):)

If Ben Taylor no less has the idea and Terry Doe endorses it then no good Brit Airgunner dare question that revelation!

Good grief men(boys)(lads) why in the world would this be so great?
Going to be pretty hard to beat what a good German barrel does now.

Cheers anyhoo!

Have faith my old Canuck. 😆

quote AirTramp:

To each it’s own. It’s actually not a new idea or concept. One current (firearm)pistol barrel maker here calls it gain-twist i.e. starting off at the breech end with no rifling or lower twist and gradually morphing into a higher twist at the muzzle end and claiming improved accuracy. The thing is, Kreiger barrel tried that decades ago and abandoned it eventually. If you are into precision shooting, you would know about the quality and reputation of Kreiger. He was in a position and had the means to look into a large enough population (of barrels) to see if there was any statistical significant difference. Does the concept work better with airguns because of the slower acceleration rate of the projectiles or it’s just another case of what’s old is new again? May be Ben knows.

All my airguns out shoot me anyway so there is no compelling reason for me to change, not that I’m a skeptic but because I won’t be able to tell the difference. If I were an olympic competitor, it may be a different story.

They say there is nothing new under the sun and that was part of the reason I asked in the first place.

To each it’s own. It’s actually not a new idea or concept. One current (firearm)pistol barrel maker here calls it gain-twist i.e. starting off at the breech end with no rifling or lower twist and gradually morphing into a higher twist at the muzzle end and claiming improved accuracy. The thing is, Kreiger barrel tried that decades ago and abandoned it eventually. If you are into precision shooting, you would know about the quality and reputation of Kreiger. He was in a position and had the means to look into a large enough population (of barrels) to see if there was any statistical significant difference. Does the concept work better with airguns because of the slower acceleration rate of the projectiles or it’s just another case of what’s old is new again? May be Ben knows.

All my airguns out shoot me anyway so there is no compelling reason for me to change, not that I’m a skeptic but because I won’t be able to tell the difference. If I were an olympic competitor, it may be a different story.

quote Chad Hauser:

If I’d invented it, I’d expect scepticism, but Ben’s name on it tells me this is the real deal. Sounds like a true innovation.

Don’t be sucked in so quick.
Ben is no great airgun god yet.

quote Tyke:

Terry Doe did the testing and he recons everything is as advertised and I would never call Terry a liar. One of the main reasons I’m ready for it is that the barrel isn’t pellet fussy, I’m using Webley Mosquitoes at the moment as they are the best for my barrel but the price of these is getting out of control so if I can find another pellet of the same weight that does the same job I’m sorted.

You guys over there crack me up :):):)

If Ben Taylor no less has the idea and Terry Doe endorses it then no good Brit Airgunner dare question that revelation!

Good grief men(boys)(lads) why in the world would this be so great?
Going to be pretty hard to beat what a good German barrel does now.

Cheers anyhoo!

If I’d invented it, I’d expect scepticism, but Ben’s name on it tells me this is the real deal. Sounds like a true innovation.

I would have to find something wrong with my current barrel first.

Terry Doe did the testing and he recons everything is as advertised and I would never call Terry a liar. One of the main reasons I’m ready for it is that the barrel isn’t pellet fussy, I’m using Webley Mosquitoes at the moment as they are the best for my barrel but the price of these is getting out of control so if I can find another pellet of the same weight that does the same job I’m sorted.

I wouldnt want to suggest that I knew better than BTAS to comment unless I’d tried one out and was able to compare it to a regular and/or polygonal barrel. All I know is that Ben does great work… so I’d assume he wouldnt be up to any smoke and mirror stuff by making barrels that didnt do what he claims.

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