Heavy pellets in a springer?
Hiya Folks,
Was curious if anyone has used the EJ 16g .177 pellets in a springer, such as a gamo shadow or big cat. I just ordered some to see if it will help with the knockdown of larger birds(Crow, Fat Pigeons) I have been using the 10g CP HP’s but I still think the “CAT” will sling the EJ’s plenty good enough and the extra weight should preserve a bit more down range energy.
I humbly appreciate your input.
Peace,
ASMALLVOICE
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I’ll send pm on the pellets….
Yes, sir… wish I could have gotten your ear on that before you ordered them… but hey, no worries, thats how we learn.
I really think that you’ll end up with far better groups from using a lighter pellet.
Let me know what pellets you’ve tried in that gun and I’ll see what others I have that I think may be worth a go. Can send you out a sampler packet to see what your gun really likes.
*********UPDATE*********
Mr. Rob,
My EJ’s were on the porch when I got home from work today. So I broke out the chrony and shot a five string with each weight.
CP HP 10.6g
1. 837
2. 826
3. 828
4. 817
5. 823
EJ 16g
1. 698
2. 647 – Gun sounded very weird on this shot.
3. 656
4. 635 – Again the weird sound
5. 619 – okay, scared now – no more of these for this gun…lol
I will not shoot another EJ that weight thru this gun again, I think the damn thing was gonna grenade in my face 😯 Kinda felt like I was tryin to shoot a danforth boat anchor thru it ❓
So, lesson learned. I will stay with weights from 7.6 to 10.6 as they are really close in fps and accuracy.
Mr. Rob, I have a tin of EJ .177 (16g) for ya if ya want em. only 5 missin’ from the tin and in no danger of loosing anymore…lol
I humbly appreciate your advice and it was dead on M8 😀
Peace,
ASMALLVOICE
I always am hesitant to give pellet advice on springers because they can be so picky and what might work well in one gun may not work for beans in another….
The major complaint against heavy pellets in a springer tends to be one of premature spring failure. If you know how to replace a spring, this is no issue. My RWS 34 tends to shoot better with 10.5gr pellets, which is normally considered to be a bit heavy for a 13fpe springer… but I shoot them in it anyway as replacing a mainspring is something I am very comfortable with should it cause failure.
So sure… give them a go, run them over the chrony, crunch some numbers for fpe and see what you get. My guess is that at the very least, the heavier pellet will create a bit of problems shooting accurately as lock time will be increased and the shot cycle will be a little more pronounced.
Thanx a million Mr. Rob,
I was curious as to the effect it would have. I will chrono a few and if it does look like the gun is strugglin to spit’em out, I will abandon that for sure…lol.
Peace,
ASMALLVOICE
Heavy pellets in a springer typically does exactly the opposite of heavy pellets in a pneumatic airgun.
For example, consider that the RWS 54 is a 20fpe gun when using 14.3gr Crosman Premiers, but drops to 17fpe when using 21gr Kodiaks.
For a 12-14fpe gun such as the Shadow or Big cat, you will do best with mid weight pellets. Eun Jins will likely kill velocity on that springer. Sorry…
Heavy pellets do have some advantages in a springer… they can be used to burn off excess oils and to stop dieseling. They may provide for better knockdown power at range if your gun can throw them, but likely as not… the heavier pellets will cause premature spring failure.
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Thanks Rob and ASV. I’ll stick with the Kodiaks and C.P.H.s.