Scops
OK need some help witch scope would be the better one Nikko Nighteater 8x32x60 the MTC Viper 4x16x50 or Hawke SR. SR12 6x24x50 all three are good i think but which one would be the better ❓
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Lol 😀 I guess if I had to walk that kind of distance to pick up my kills then the fun would also soon wear off!! You just spoilt with your hunting trips Walt 😀 😆
Long distance? Nah, I had my fill of that. Used to shoot all day long at 450 yds with a 308WIN, but I’ve had confirmed 1 shot kills at almost 700 yards (goats) with 308 and 270. A bit easier with the 270. Real fun when the wind starts to pick up. Took most of the day just to hike over to recover the meat (shooting across a pretty good sized canyon).
As I get older I seem to be going with less and less power. Might get it into my head to start throwing rocks next. Leave the gun at home already.
aloha,
walt
Its the long shots that are the satisfiying shots for me. One can hit something under 50 yards all day long. Its those long 75-100 yard hits that ring my bell 😆
aloha,
walt
Thats all fine and dandy Walt. My shooting doesnt involve waiting all day for one or three animals to come into range. 😉
I tend to take long hikes in the oaks and such and rarely get many shots under 40 yards. I just like the idea of knowing where to aim so I dont have to wait. Washingtonians are just impatient, I guess 🙂
aloha,
walt
I reckon you wrestle them big hogs down and knife them Walt 😆 😆
Don’t use a 5k knife now will you!! 😀 😀
Reticles? Software? Man, you guys are working too hard. I use bait. I set the bait at 21 yards. I zero the scope at 21 yards. Hawaiians are just lazy, I guess. 🙂
aloha,
walt
I just got a MTC Viper 4×16 from Arizona Air Guns less then a week ago. Sweet scope! They said they had three left in stock if you are still looking.
At 10 yards I just look down the side of the barrel, LOL. j/k
Or use the laser depending on what rifle Im shooting.
Using the software for the SR (free) you can print a diagram of what yardage each aiming point represents. This can be specifically tailored to your guns trajectory with your chosen pellet.
I know this can be done with mil-dots too, but the SR reticle gives you double the usable aim points.
Using mil-dots, 35 yards is between crosshair and first dot above crosshair, no specific aiming point. Zero is at 50, first dot below crosshair is 72 yards, 2nd dot is 105 yards and I rarely attempt shots farther than that.
Using SR, first circle above the crosshair is 36 yards, zero at 50.
1st circle below crosshair is 64, 1st “branch” is 78, next circle 91, 2nd branch is 104. Very close to the mil dot setup, but with 2 extra precise aiming points between and my close shots are easier to setup for. The circles are about the same size as a dot, but you can see thru them. I like that a lot. I can actually use the top and bottom part of the circle to further break down the ranges.
It must be said, both systems have more dots, circles and whatnot above and below the center crosshair but I would only need these beyond the magic 100 yard line.
The SR system has circles on the end of the “branches”. These represent aiming points at thier calculated ranges in a 10mph crosswind. The lower branches are wider, which gives the reticle its christmas tree name.
You want more versatility? Change the magnification in the software and print out another chart. You can now have precise aiming points between the ranges from your first chart. Tape both to your scope (I have) and you have just about all ranges covered.
I have been testing this for the last couple weeks and I find it to be extremely precise. Of course using the system takes a few seconds but with time I wont need the printouts nor a magnification change. So far I really like the way this works.
Mil-dot pros who really know thier stuff might not care much, but I still think its pretty neat.
My Viper SCB( small calibre ballistic) reticule is like that. Half mildots all with windage lines 😀
For cheat cards I use chairgun. The round printout which you can size to fit in your occular flip up is cool 8)
I would get the MTC Viper 4x16x50 only due to the fact that it is 4X16…There are many times when I need to see at 10yds and IMO I don’t thinkg you can do that with a 6X24,,,,
Ill tell ya why I like the SR12 better than mil-dot.
Using the software for the SR (free) you can print a diagram of what yardage each aiming point represents. This can be specifically tailored to your guns trajectory with your chosen pellet.
I know this can be done with mil-dots too, but the SR reticle gives you double the usable aim points.
Using mil-dots, 35 yards is between crosshair and first dot above crosshair, no specific aiming point. Zero is at 50, first dot below crosshair is 72 yards, 2nd dot is 105 yards and I rarely attempt shots farther than that.
Using SR, first circle above the crosshair is 36 yards, zero at 50.
1st circle below crosshair is 64, 1st “branch” is 78, next circle 91, 2nd branch is 104. Very close to the mil dot setup, but with 2 extra precise aiming points between and my close shots are easier to setup for. The circles are about the same size as a dot, but you can see thru them. I like that a lot. I can actually use the top and bottom part of the circle to further break down the ranges.
It must be said, both systems have more dots, circles and whatnot above and below the center crosshair but I would only need these beyond the magic 100 yard line.
The SR system has circles on the end of the “branches”. These represent aiming points at thier calculated ranges in a 10mph crosswind. The lower branches are wider, which gives the reticle its christmas tree name.
You want more versatility? Change the magnification in the software and print out another chart. You can now have precise aiming points between the ranges from your first chart. Tape both to your scope (I have) and you have just about all ranges covered.
I have been testing this for the last couple weeks and I find it to be extremely precise. Of course using the system takes a few seconds but with time I wont need the printouts nor a magnification change. So far I really like the way this works.
Mil-dot pros who really know thier stuff might not care much, but I still think its pretty neat.
Well it looks like the hawke has won for what i have read about it it will be the one thanks
I like the dot better.
I have a 6x18x44 SR12 and I love it.
By far my favorite scope I own.
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Amen to that, Paul. When I was younger I didn’t mind so much climbing cliffs with my a$$ hanging off over a thousand feet of nothing but air. It was exciting and fun and challenging. But a few years ago, in exactly that situation, trying to get to the downed meat and hanging on for dear life over a sheer drop, I just shook my head and thought what would happen to my kids if I bought it. So nowadays, I just pull out the camp stool and wait for ’em 🙂
A hunter just bought it like that over here; fell off a cliff in an area I hunt pretty often. February 1st, opening day of hunting season over here. I knew him, but only casually. Won’t be the first funeral for a guy that fell off a cliff ,though. It gets pretty rugged pretty quick away from waikiki.
aloha,
walt