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Airgun dealers/ vendors gone bad….

Was thinking of the vendors and airgun smiths in the community who turned out to not deliver on promises and/or faded away into obscurity.

Was wondering of these vendors and such and though we’d make a list…. call it the delinquent list, I guess…haha

Wayne Trapp…. bad deals on multiple items and on an online airgun magazine deal.

Joe Bontrager…. Made some excellent guns, then personal hardships caused his disappearance.

Don Guthormsen… Started doing tunes/ small work… ended up keeping money and guns with no contact.

Matt Bean… Apparently not communicating or taking money with no product delivered.

Chris Teodoro/Filarms….. took many peoples money (including yours truly) on order for guns. Used that money to buy new equipment for up and coming airgun shop in the Philippines. Huge story on this one and a lot of folks butt hurt over it.

Who else is there? Seems I am forgetting someone and it’s too early for me to think right now.

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quote Yellow Ninja:

quote rob3dr:

Chris Teodoro/Filarms….. took many peoples money (including yours truly) on order for guns. Used that money to buy new equipment for up and coming airgun shop in the Philippines. Huge story on this one and a lot of folks butt hurt over it.

Rob, your memory is slipping… You got your filarms, I distinctly remember seeing photo’s you had taken of it, I even saw your name and address on the box 😈

haha… I got ‘A’ Filarms… one that broke on the second shot…. purdy gun though. Was the intent for me to review it and then send it on to its rightful owner. Instead, I got it… shot it 2 times and it broke…. waited three months for word from Chris… then sent it to Don… who….. posted pics of it with my address for all the world to see. ….. thats ok. I live in the boonies, there are lots of meat eating critters around the house….and I am armed to the hilt. haha

quote rob3dr:

Chris Teodoro/Filarms….. took many peoples money (including yours truly) on order for guns. Used that money to buy new equipment for up and coming airgun shop in the Philippines. Huge story on this one and a lot of folks butt hurt over it.

Rob, your memory is slipping… You got your filarms, I distinctly remember seeing photo’s you had taken of it, I even saw your name and address on the box 😈

How about SS Airguns.

I heard there are people who never got their goods from him after he closed his business.

Not sure of him meeting the criteria… Straylight.

Jim Ayers did finally come through for me after 4-5 months, but the valve and hammer he set up for me work great.
Evidently he was going through some rough times with his regular job situation.
Hope he took care of the rest of the guys here.

SAW

yeah impact still owes me a bipod, but I did get a cool hat

Impact Airguns. Remember the giveaway ruse?

quote TeflonTron:

Sad to hear about Joe Bontrager; I know that a lot of folks were really stoked about the work that he was doing.

I have one of his pistols and one of his QB rifles… both are great…. his big bores were something special as well….

Joe got hit hard by life changing circumstances… I hope he can pull out of it and regroup.

I just sold one of Joe’s conversion guns. It was a nice little tac driver.

Sad to hear about Joe Bontrager; I know that a lot of folks were really stoked about the work that he was doing.

Never knew his real name but there was “Blue” … he dealt with Rapids and I read that he swiped a few … was supposed to be dying of cancer but turned out to be a lie. That was back when we had the old Talon forum so it’s been a couple of years ago.

He was out in California somewhere … last I read one of the owners sent the Sheriff to arrest him for theft … never read anymore after that.

I was slacking for a bit during the move and lack of internet thing and I snuck in a much needed vacation as well, but I’m feeling much better now and all caught up and shipping on time :mrgreen:

Thats right…. Jim…. I’d had some work done by him back in the day…. took a while for the work to get done… but he eventually did come though.

I dont know if he did ever come through or not.

Another was Skyler M. Crosman guy. I dont know that one could call him ‘delinquent’ though. toward the end of his tuning business, he had a few customer complaints that he was not sending guns. I dont know if he ever made right with everyone, but I think he did.

Jim Ayers went sideways for one reason or another, but never heard if he eventually made everyone whole or if there are still folks out there with bupkis.

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