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The difference between the Daystate Airwolf vs the MCT

I thought I would share this information. This is a response I recieved when I asked this very question.

Airwolf MCT info

“The regular airwolf does not have a pressure sensor and therefore is also not mapped. In the MCT the computer uses the information from the pressure sensor to regulate the valve timing to get close to get an extremely flat power curve. The regular airwolf does not regulate the hammer strike. The flattening of the curve is accomplished in the same manner as conventional air rifles, by the air pressure behind the valve stem.Β 

The mct does not have as many power levels because it actuay has stored in it’s memory bank the exact hammer strike nescessary to deliver the exact fpe at every fil pressure. This will of course vary for every power setting and so for 16 power settings it would be a LOT of information.”

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Humm-so did the last generation of the wolf’s. turned out to be burr’s in the air transfer port. I would hope that they got it sorted out in ALL of their guns. Not just the Wolf’s. πŸ˜•

I Hope!!! πŸ˜‰
Mike

I would have been all over the .25 if it was rated at 50 ft/lbs but the .22 and the .25 are both rated at 40 ft/lbs. I decided to listen to Tachdriver’s advice and go with the .22 since he owns both MCT’s. I think the ultimate air rifle would be the MCT with the power of the Daystate Air Ranger without losing any accuracy. I almost bought the 50 ft/lb Air Ranger but decided to go with the MCT so I could stop thinking about it. The Ranger is cheaper, more powerful, and it is all mechanical. Does anyone own the current .22 caliber, 50 ft/lb Air Ranger? I want one of these too but I hear they had some accuracy issues out of the box. Maybe someday. πŸ˜‰

A very beautiful fence post if you cant get electronics for them???

I’ll stay with the simple stuff, you guys have fun.

You and me both—In .25! πŸ˜€ πŸ˜‰

If they could dump the low setting and go with high and “double high” for the US market, …I probably would have gone and done something stupid by now…

quote knifemaker:

Well, having owned an Archery shop for years, shooting and winning competitions and hunting with a bow for ever, I’ll take the compound when hungry. Thank you! I own one of the most expensive stick bows on the planet. but compared to a first rate compound, it is like comparing a Yugo to a Ferrari! πŸ˜†

But if ancient school is your thing, any one having a Wolf that is worried about it, I’ll trade you a crossman pump for it. πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜€

I’d probably even throw in my S410.
Probably…..

Well, having owned an Archery shop for years, shooting and winning competitions and hunting with a bow for ever, I’ll take the compound when hungry. Thank you! I own one of the most expensive stick bows on the planet. but compared to a first rate compound, it is like comparing a Yugo to a Ferrari! πŸ˜†

But if ancient school is your thing, any one having a Wolf that is worried about it, I’ll trade you a crossman pump for it. πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜€

Thats an insane shot count….but I’ve never gotten that many shots while out hunting…..Seems like one of the pinnacles in airgunning, I like it way better than the bullpup design…..once again though we are giving up something for something else and when it does need repair instead of bringing her to the gunsmith it will go to the computer geek…kind of reminds me of the compound wheelie bow compaired to the sweet simple wooden longbow…

quote oldgoat:

I am sure that the board is a quality unit that just plugs in and is held with screws. It shouldn’t be hard to replace.

If, say 5-10 years down the road, you needed another board and Daystate was out of buisness, didn’t offer that board anymore or had been bought out by Gamo, you are SOL.

When/If I get a MCT, I would want another board also. Just sayin.

Well that could be true for any product you buy. But yeah, just order a second board when you buy the gun then…

I am sure that the board is a quality unit that just plugs in and is held with screws. It shouldn’t be hard to replace.

If, say 5-10 years down the road, you needed another board and Daystate was out of buisness, didn’t offer that board anymore or had been bought out by Gamo, you are SOL.

When/If I get a MCT, I would want another board also. Just sayin.

quote oldgoat:

That is all great and I can see a MCT in my future. I work in maintenance at a local factory. I get to see it all, regular mechanical, hydraulics, pneumatics, electrical, robotics, and PLC. Electronic boards can go out anytime. If you don’t have a backup board, the piece of equipment is down till you get one. On some of the more complex boards, you can flash the BIOS, or see if the chip has lost a line of logic, and maybe get it going again. On most of them, you are SOL.

Have you ever had the motherboard or the hard drive die on your computer? How about the engine diagnostics chip on your car go belly up? I have. I can rebuild the computer, the engine diagnostics chip has to be replaced and the tow paid for.

Like I said, I can see a Daystate MCT in my future. In the future, if they go out of business and you do need a board, good luck!

I would still buy one, after I get the long version Edgun.

Good points, though one would like to presume that the pcb is a simple part to replace? Remove stock, unplug pcb, replace and put stock back on. But let me guess, it ACTUALLY requires a brain surgeon, a cabinet maker and a high preist to do the job… πŸ™„ πŸ˜†

That is all great and I can see a MCT in my future. I work in maintenance at a local factory. I get to see it all, regular mechanical, hydraulics, pneumatics, electrical, robotics, and PLC. Electronic boards can go out anytime. If you don’t have a backup board, the piece of equipment is down till you get one. On some of the more complex boards, you can flash the BIOS, or see if the chip has lost a line of logic, and maybe get it going again. On most of them, you are SOL.

Have you ever had the motherboard or the hard drive die on your computer? How about the engine diagnostics chip on your car go belly up? I have. I can rebuild the computer, the engine diagnostics chip has to be replaced and the tow paid for.

Like I said, I can see a Daystate MCT in my future. In the future, if they go out of business and you do need a board, good luck!

I would still buy one, after I get the long version Edgun.

I would rather have the .25 mct than even an Edgun…..

This is the answer I recieved after emailing Daystate:

Β Air Wolf has CDT technology.Β  The electronics fire a solenoid which opens the valve quickly and efficiently.Β  No feedback from the rifle to the electronics exists.Β  There are 14 programmable power settings adjusted on the board by controlling the intensity of the hammer striking force.
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Air Wolf MCT has mapped programming based on air pressure, which is fed to the electronics by a sensor on the air cylinder.Β  Because of the complexity involved in the programming, the MCT only has two mapped power settings.Β  This, however is two distinct settings with their own mapped settings, so both are extremely consistent.
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The shot count, and consistency improved from the change over from the Air Wolf to the MCT.

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The MCT motherboard is triple sealed electronics to protect it.

Read this review

http://www.daystate.com/images/reviews/AirWolfMCT-AGW-Review-1.pdf

500 consistent shots on a single charge on the lo setting !!

later

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