Need opinion on a new gun
Well I did not want to hyjack edward’s thread.
I am looking to buy a new gun, a friend of mine wants me to but a 17HMR because he has one, a friend at work has a .22 for sale, and I was wondering about a 22WMR.
I would be using it for prairie dog hunting at 100 yards or more, your input would be greatly appreicated.
Thanks,
dog
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I have had the CZ 17 HMR, it was an accurate killing machine. It simply does not compare with the 22 lr or the 22 mag, which in my opinon should have been still born.
I get so tired of folks telling me about their magnum pistols, only to learn it is a 22 mag, which has roughly the power of a 22 lr in a rilfe. The worst of the worst was the 22 mag in the High Standard Derringer.
The 17 HMR when it was first introduced was thought to have less wind bucking ability and fall short of the 22 mag at distance. Experience has shown that the nay sayers were wrong.
Save up the 17 HMR ammo, buy a box every week so when you go hunting, you have plenty to burn.
Roachcreek
I have the same, with AccuTrigger and target barrel, out of the box it is accurate to 1″ at 100 yards. It took 50 rounds to tighten up and loves Hornady XTP and V-Max bullets.
DiY Good info on tuning rimfire rifles, especially the triggers. Checkout the Rimfire Central web sight. Good knowledge on all rimfires, including the .17’s and a air rifle section, too?
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php
Sam 😆
I am going to look at a cz I was already searching for local dealers.
Don’t forget to look at cz. I repeat that name over and over around here, and for good reason. It is hard to beat. 😀
Thanks for all the advice, I am going to look at the 17HMR, my friend has a Savage thumb hole stock with the AccuTrigger, really nice.
I will also be bringing my Talon Tune .22 Condor with when I go prairie dog hunting, I will have to wait till after Christmas before I can buy it because I just got a Benelli M2 12 gauge.
Thanks for all your help guys.
dog
um whos the new guy?
JAG ur AV is SWEET
nice way to start out here ❗ ❗ ❗
oh and heres a 3 page thread on this subject
http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16515&highlight=mag
If you want a cheap plinker that is a lot of fun then go with the .22LR. For the average person, as long as you’re not consistently pushing much more than 60 yards you have some pretty decent accuracy (you could even use CCI stinger shells for more power and distance). I particularly enjoy shooting it using a tricked out Ruger 10/22.
Now, if you’re after decent “reach out and touch” and shooting with decent knock down power, I suggest you go with either the .17hmr or the .22 mag. There’s trade offs with both. The .17hmr is a flatter trajectory while the .22 has more energy when it hits.
Personally, I’ve shot both a lot but I prefer the .17hmr. It’s a much faster bullet that will reach out further than the .22mag. I also find it to be extremely accurate. I’ve shot groups at 100 yards with Hornady 17 grain V-Max bullets that group less than 1 MOA. Be a bit concerned if it’s a windy day as it will mess with the .17 a bit more. I also prefer the .17 because I’ve shot some pelts that I’ve wanted to keep and the hole is smaller and not as noticeable. One last word about the .17. Stay away from the semi-auto loaders because they tend to not feed well which have resulted in exploded shells which is why all other manufacturers have recalled their rifles. The only one brave enough to make one right now is Magnum Research and they cost a very pretty penny but they’re really sweet!!
Anyways, there ya go. Hope this helps!
x2
After getting my 17hmr I don’t use the 22wmr. Also got sick of my stock 10/22 until I dumped $800 into it.
I agree with Mr-lama, If you want alot a trigger time, the .22LR is the way to go. I’m burning alot of .22lr for now, and calling all over town trying to find the rounds I want, and testing others. From the CB caps, subsonic’s, to the Hypersonic’s and run of the mill High Velocity’s in the middle, the fun factor can’t be beat!
Of course, unless you get a Talon Tunes .25 Condor, which has the Ultimate fun factor of ALL guns, bar none?
Never tried the .22 magnum, the cost turned me off. Plus, being beside, and never behind one, it was way too loud when compared to the standard velocity .22LR.
When seriously shooting I get the .223 remington 700 sps varmint, where the blast is worth the result. 😛
Enjoy and stick to your guns.
Sam 😎
I’ve shot all three of these plenty. It all depends what you want.
If you want a cheap plinker that is a lot of fun then go with the .22LR. For the average person, as long as you’re not consistently pushing much more than 60 yards you have some pretty decent accuracy (you could even use CCI stinger shells for more power and distance). I particularly enjoy shooting it using a tricked out Ruger 10/22.
Now, if you’re after decent “reach out and touch” and shooting with decent knock down power, I suggest you go with either the .17hmr or the .22 mag. There’s trade offs with both. The .17hmr is a flatter trajectory while the .22 has more energy when it hits.
Personally, I’ve shot both a lot but I prefer the .17hmr. It’s a much faster bullet that will reach out further than the .22mag. I also find it to be extremely accurate. I’ve shot groups at 100 yards with Hornady 17 grain V-Max bullets that group less than 1 MOA. Be a bit concerned if it’s a windy day as it will mess with the .17 a bit more. I also prefer the .17 because I’ve shot some pelts that I’ve wanted to keep and the hole is smaller and not as noticeable. One last word about the .17. Stay away from the semi-auto loaders because they tend to not feed well which have resulted in exploded shells which is why all other manufacturers have recalled their rifles. The only one brave enough to make one right now is Magnum Research and they cost a very pretty penny but they’re really sweet!!
Anyways, there ya go. Hope this helps!
.17hmr is great. Inherently accurate and good 100 yard varmint killing power. Only downside is ammo price.
I’ve never been a huge fan of the .22mag. Mostly because I’ve never seen a really accurate rifle that uses it. If you had a good rifle, it would probably be a good one. I think it is perfect for hogs and such. Good power and penetration, where great accuracy isn’t needed.
I love the .22lr. Very cheap, pretty accurate. And did I say cheap? 😀 If you want a gun for lots of range time, .22lr is hard to beat. And I think it will have plenty of power at 100 yards for small varmints.
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That pretty much eliminates the need for a .22 lr. The condor for short stuff and the 17hmr for longer stuff a perfect combination. I own 3 , 17hmr’s a .22 mag , condor.22 and a talon ss in .22 and my latest a .25 marauder. If I was to pick two for groundhogs or prairie dogs it would be .22 condor for close stuff anf 17hmr for longer stuff. I have a bunch of .22lr including a 10/22 target model, .22 lr is good for shorter work after 75 yards I am not impressed! 17hmr is better over 50 yards compared to 22 lr in my book. Cost of ammo is overated to me. How many times do you shoot 500 graound hogs in a sitting? I never shot more than 3. even prarie dogs how many times would I go west and shoot 200 or more? if it is once a tyear who cares about the ammo costs?
$14 for a box of 17hmr rounds is no big deal. I buy the ammo to kill something and have fun not to shoot as cheap as possible. I am on rimfire forum as well you should take a look at 17hmr section.