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New & and hope to contribute as well as learn

Greetings everyone. I’m newly registered but am a long-time reader of this forum– It’s excellent. I come with a lot of stored up questions that I can’t answer by myself by relying only on reading old and new posts to this forum. I promise I won’t be blurting them out all at once though.

A Little Background:

I own a 24″ Condor with a low-flow tank, tuned and scoped to fire 18.1gr JSBs at 890-950 fps at a 5-20 yard range for varmint-control purposes (forty clean kills since Sept. 1st of this year plus 5 misses just from one walnut tree). I dedicated a month target shooting 20-80 pellets a day, zeroed at 10yds, also checking for the required hold-over for 20yds. I went up and down the scale of various tank-pressure fills and power-wheel settings until I settled on a 2550psi fill and 8/8 power-wheel setting. I now get 40 useful laser-accurate shots before refilling. All that required pumping on my Hill pump affected my lower back. But I’ve strengthened and immunized it by engaging in some over-all physical conditioning and muscle strengthening. A shroud on my Condor allows me to take opportune shots quietly and invisibly from behind a wooden 6 1/2 ft tall gate at the side of my house from where I have a view of 4/5 of the walnut tree crown in my front yard. Neighbors who happen to be milling about in their driveways or porches hear nothing when I fire. And the beeline of the falling mass of the varmint falling to the ground is so instantaneous that it too has gone unnoticed forty times. The dead varmints fall in a sun-dappled area below the tree that’s planted with bushes and covered with cedar bark that, viewed from the street or the neighbors’ living room picture windows, blocks or camouflages any inert shapes like that of a gray dead varmint on the ground. It’s been simply a matter of non-chalantly walking through the gate and retrieving the kill as if it were the most natural thing to my neighbors to see me appear and momentarily busy myself with picking up dead branches or nuts in my front yard and placing them at the bottom of a wheelbarrow (along with the sneaked-in dead varmint).

With my position in the community, the sensitiveness of people toward killing “cute furry creatures”, and the fact that I’m doing this in a residential area– my varminting with the Condor within city limits does have to be kept unpublicized. So I’ve worked at being absolutely safety conscious and efficient at this my initial purpose of varmint control– I was looking for no noise, pin-point accuracy and lethalness every time, and no exposing my activity. I purchased a Gamo Cat break-barrel at first and then immediately, looking for efficiency, a Condor. My initial mission has been pretty much completed now. Where in years past I used to look out the window and see 3 or 4 varmints scurrying about digging up the lawn or sitting smugly in the forks and branches of the tree and gnawing away on a walnut, now there’s just a silent still-life picture of lawn and tree with no telling signs of dug up grass or twitching leaves and swaying branches in the tree. Having settled on the Condor’s settings (for now, for varmint purposes), and with forty kills from that tree that seems to have decimated the population, I’m left with only having to check my zero daily by shooting one or two pellets a day at a target and keeping track of how many shots out of forty accurate shots I have left. The zero is consistent and unchanging. When my Garage Alarm (recommended in a post) at the base of the tree goes off and I have to go take care of business– which is hardly ever anymore—I don’t miss the kill zone of my target. Less pumping of the Hill pump — which is every 2 weeks or so now— also has helped my back recover. And my wife is very content with my results and happy that I harvested a now abundant amount of nuts to pay for part of the cost of the Condor and accessories.

My Condor rests on a rifle rest in our living room, I can pick it up quickly on a signal from the Alarm and head out the back door to the garage to take a quick off-hand shooting position behind the gate. My wife has not complained about the Condor being displayed at the base of the fireplace because of the positive tool it has been to me in protecting her landscaping and because she knows how much I respect what my Condor can do. The rifle, with shroud, has the lines of one long linear black needle and she knows I love the looks of it. I am a former road and tournament money pool player and aiming and sighting the Condor is quite similar to the feel of sighting down the length of my custom-made pool sticks. Plus the taking into account of all the variables involved when shooting an airgun and mastering it, as one does a pool stick on the green felt, is quite a satisfying challenge. Concerning the lines of the Condor, I will express that when I see add-on accessories that change the horizontality of its needle-like sleekness or distort its tank shape or alter the length-long uniformity of its black wasp color I tend to be dismayed or slightly grimace at the mouth. But those concerns are question-and-discussion for later. For now I am just introducing my arrival to airgun shooting and to the forum.

I also have come to wanting to buy another precision pcp— a bullpup. And I have questions about that whole business of bullpups and the lack of choice. But I’d like to bring up that subject later to find out what everybody else thinks. To sum up, I’m very happy with my Condor and look forward to participating in this forum. I am not engineering- or machinist-savvy, but I am looking to learn about lathing and milling because I have some airgun and accessories concepts that I would like to try my hand at creating like I see other forum members doing. Machining tools and machining techniques are also things I’d like some advice about.

That’s a little about where I’m coming from. I’m looking forward to this.

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I hear you about checking local community colleges for machinist courses. I checked the two nearest commutable schools and both told me that their machinist courses had been cut due to funding (the economy). And I’ve checked with other types of schools– adult schools (no course offerings) and commercial schools (nearest one 4 hrs away and pretty pricey). But I also ran across information on machinist shops and gunsmiths in my city. So I’m wondering: if you were a machinist/gunsmith, with shop and equipment and busy doing jobs for customers, how would you react to someone walking in and asking to help out around the shop or pay to be taught at least the basics of machining? Wild idea? I could also just take a leap and buy an all-in-one or combo mini-lathe and milling machine and teach myself to use them. I’m thinking small projects. All in due time though.

As to using a Talon SS rather than my 24″ Condor for varminting around the house– with as long as it is with a shroud– my Condor moves and handles pretty well in my hands. I’ll mention that I’ve also had a past of years doing martial-arts-like fluid movement exercises, including maneuvering and manipulating a long stick at the same time. It made my pool stick handling steady and silky smooth back then, and now 5 or 10 minutes doing the same thing with the Condor has made it lighter, the way a 5 lb. weight becomes lighter and lighter and more maneuverable with repetitions and time. Once muscle tone increases then handling technique takes over. It’s good advice though, a Talon SS; compactness has advantages as far as gun handling– less waver/shake in off-hand shooting, less weight, less chance of banging the barrel/shroud against objects, or scraping it on the ground if I forget to hunch my shoulder and crook my elbow enough when carrying the airgun muzzle down..

But the Talon SS has been interesting me for an added reason besides compactness since receiving my Condor. Actually, I also prefer the Talon’s shorter scope rail to the Condor’s. If I hadn’t been so green I would have ordered a Talon SS modded to shoot like a low-flow valve Condor and shrouded. I’d rather attach my CenterPoint 8-32×56 scope closer to the barrel ( I know– inexpensive scope and maybe too much magnification for some. I have others with less mag. But I know how to use this one with 8-mag at short range with no problem, the zero maintains throughout all magnifications, and the glass is clear and there’s no distortion at the higher mags. When I get to a firing range, I’ll already have long-range sighting capability. For the money I’m pleased. I figure later on for a Hawke, Bushnell, Leupold, or something else). Besides price, what I was looking for in a scope was a long mounting length (the CenterPoint has it); so that I could over-hang the bell of the scope over the front of the rail to bring the scope closer to the barrel and use low rings. I’ve achieved it with the CenterPoint on the longer Condor rail. But with a shorter Talon SS rail more of the scope bell would extend over the front of the rail and come even closer to the barrel. Yes, I realize that sighting would be almost impossible since the eyepiece would almost touch the front end of the tank. So for the scope to rest lower like I imagine on a Talon SS the tank would have to be lower too. An adaptor would do the trick on the tank, but the only adaptor shape that looks appealing to me is Mariobanus’ three friends’ adaptor. Their adaptor respects the lines of the Condor/Talon airguns without any sidecasting or drooping of the tank. So until Mariobanus’ friends’ model gets to the USA from Argentina, buying a Talon SS for the shorter rail will have to wait. And that’s one reason to learn about machining and whatever else is needed to create Airforce gun accessories.

Speaking of compactness, I’ll mention that I deposited $150 for a .22 cal Standard Edgun. I’ll go through with buying it or not when the moment comes. But for compactness, there’s an airgun for you.

Anyway, enough of that for now. And it’s true that it was about time I joined. Thanks for the welcoming responses all. Time to move on, unless I need to respond some more in this post.

Well it’s about time you joined!!
What were you waiting for??? An RSVP???? 🙄 😆 😆 😆

Glad to see you join the gang and looking forward to more posts.

Bruce
a.k.a. Revwarnut

WElcome to Tag Bleece! any questions you have just type them here, the members here will get you through about any problem you have, just listen to what they have to say 😯

welcome 😀

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Have you looked at the Talon SS for a more compact set up if thats what you want? I have a condor and a talon SS. I also have a marauder in .25 for my very own squirrels! lol
Welcome aboard and happy shooting!
You know this is going to cost you Alot of money like the rest of us!

Welcome to the asylum….where the sick come to be surrounded with good company and the rest just point and laugh at the grown men who love our “BB” guns….fire away woth the questions their are very few here who arnt willing to share knowledge and lend a helping hand ….Greg

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Good story about where you are coming from!
Lurking on this forum is informative but participating is truely educational and addictive. No questions are dumb although I have been guilty of not understanding some and putting My Foot in my own mouth maybe once or twice. I’m no expert, but rest assured many on TAG Forum are EXPERTS by experience if not formal education. We bring together a world of diversified experiences and ideas. I’m sure we will also continue to learn from you as some already have from your well thought out plan to eliminate those destructive tree rodents.

BTW GREAT SHOOTING :11:

Wow, well stated. Welcome to the TAG! 😀 That driveway sensor helped me bag 4 rats the other night, but I have been too busy to post them. You should check around to see if you have a community college that offers tool and machine classes. That would be a great place to learn about machining practices. Welcome to the darkside; enjoy your journey!

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