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$120.00 Vs $650.00 Scope World

I just recently removed my BSA Sweet .223 off of My Savage and replaced it with this Leupold VXIII 6.5 X 20 40mm. The point I am trying to make here sort of dawned on me today and I wanted to share it with folks. Many times we wonder about higher $$ scopes right? Ever imagine about a higher $$ scope after spending some quality time with a lesser scope on a favorite rifle of sort even after you have made some very fine shots?
I have…., I have also used Leupold before too. On my .17 Cal HMR I use a VXII 18 Power and the glass is nicer. But today I was sighting my larger VXIII on this Savage I have and even though the glass is quite a bit nicer I thought to myself is it really more fun? Is it really worth it? It then dawned on me that the BSA Sweet for approximately $120.00 was a very nice scope and I have killed over 84 of these squirrels with some shots out to 120 yards. And then another thing dawned on me. I have these books called “Out of Nowhere” and “Sniper” by Martin Pegler and I then recalled reading and noticing some of the legendary war marksmen and sharp shooters from Germany and Russia and USA and back then all of them had Scopes that were not all that good compared to todays standards in even lesser scopes. I read about all kinds of problems regarding mounts coming loose and scopes sliding forward with recoil. Scopes coming apart inside from the frozen conditions and recoil. Man what a pain in the ass compared to my problems with scopes and my Squirrels don’t shoot back either ! 😆

Now I like my investment so don’t get me completly wrong here. I wanted a scope that was about matched in value to the rifle.
However for what it’s worth if you have a scope on a rifle and it doesn’t move on you and it is tight and you can do your shooting and or hit what you wish,… then don’t fix it if it ain’t broke. I shot this thing today and it was fun and I am pleased but that BSA Sweet for the money did the trick as well also.
Here is a shot of my Savage and my Leupold when I was mounting it today before I went out to the field.
I also really enjoy this Ultimate Sniper Stock designed by Major Plaster. It has some cool features. I moved the cheek rest forward and removed a spacer in the recoil butt and then dropped the recoil butt down a tad.

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If this Leupold breaks or dies the Leupold company will replace it or repair it free for life. Can’t go wrong with that. But if it gets bad enough I will put something like that BSA Sweet .223 back on or even a Center Point or Leapers Airgun scope on this and I bet it would kick some serious butt!

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What you will see in really good glass will amaze you. You not only can see what you can see with thenaked eye in thedark, but much, much better. A top glass will shave half an hour off the dark thirty clock.

A Eye Doctor friend of mine and I were hunting for wild boar a few years back. He had a then new highly toted US. RedField Illumanator. ( the super expenssive one that came in the wooden box). I He wanted to leave as it was too dark. I I told him to glass the far corner of the pasture at a little over 500 yards. He couldn’t see a thing. Not with the scope, not his binos, not with the naked eye. For fun, I handed him my swarofski 8×56 night hunter bino’. He couldn’t believe it. He could not only see the pig. He could see the fence behind it, and the barbed wire! then I let him take a look thru the 8c56 night hunter heavy post Khales scope on my weatherby .257. Again he could see the pig just fine.

We shot the pig One round, through the spine just behind the head, before the sholder. “DRT” Dead Right There!!! You just can’t beat good optics! Fair optics, = What Pig?( Don’t even know it’s there). Average to good optics= No Pig. Superior Optics! In mild starlight= EatingPig!!! Nuff Said!

Mike

Very well said.
I have been messing with my Leupold VXII and VXIII on two different rifles and man fishing through the grass and wood piles I can see quite well. In day time I could see just as well with the BSA but one thing I notice about the quality of the Leupold’s glass was that I can focus on a range and see well and the lower ranges I can see the difference in focus as I adjust. A definite contrast difference because the scope’s adjustments are really much tighter and more precise. Were talking ranges from my focus at 120 yards and at 70 and 50 I can still see but I can see the difference in my adjustments.
And of course I also noticed at night I could see in the shadows and in the dark with whatever moon light or any light that exist if I can see I can also see through the glass of the scope. This my BSA wouldn’t do. Not like this anyway…In the dark it was just to dark to see but through the Leupold…if I can see it I can see it through the scope as if I wasn’t looking through the scope. meaning the scope didn’t make it any harder to see after I spotted something in the dark or at night you might say.
Coyotes play at night so this may be handy. 😉

And also I suppose,any scope manurfacture that covers the scope for life and they will replace it or repair it for free….
Thats not a bad long term investment.

I’m under the same opinion. If it works for you, don’t change it. Don’t get me wrong though. I’d love a Swarovski or a Schmidt & Bender, but a Nikko Stirling or a Leapers have served me very well. The reason for many of these high priced optics is that eventually, someone is going to be trusting their lives to them. Those people need the high resolution optics and light transmission because they are picking out targets that will kill them if they don’t.

If I’m hunting of course, it makes the whole experience much more enjoyable knowing I can see game that much better, but not totally necessary. But then again, just like every other outdoorsman, if it ain’t the scope that caused me to let the “big one” get away, it’ll be something else that I make up off the top of my head 🙂 Ahh hell. I’ll probably blame the scope even if I did pay a grand for it!

And see how also you become familiar with it too?
I will get familiar with my new scope but I had some major fun with my BSA!

And too then some of todays modern scopes are amazing. But like I said,if it works then it works.

I dig shooting squirrels and Coyotes! Bobcats too! 8)

Lots of fun Lots of fun!

Leapers is hard to beat.

Good point Slayer (used to love that band), Although i’m with you in wondering what its like shooting with a Bushie elite or better. I still can’t knock my Leapers really and considering your point, it has advantages others never had years ago. Our troops from WWI, WWII might well be in awe with mildots, AO and lighted recticles. 😆 A scope which holds in its mount, my zero does shift a little, a click or two at 30′. That would be my only complaint. After 10 shots and a click or two one way or another i’m right back on Zero.

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