1400 PSI regulated air, .177 Condor
I’ve been shooting CO2 for the last few weeks (since I got the Condor) and am happy with it for plinking targets in the yard. It doesn’t have enough power, IMHO, for serious hunting (650 fpm with CPHPs, 7.9)
I ordered two 48 CI tanks, 3000 psi, with 1400 psi regulators. They should screw right into the CO2 adapter. I’m hoping to get 900 – 950 fpm. And, hopefully, with either a 10.5 CP or 16.1 Eun Gin.
Am I realistic in my expectations? Will 1400 PSI drive ’em out that fast? Faster? Slower?
Thanks!
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Ha ha ha good one!
No, I haven’t. Partly because I’m happy at 860. Mostly because I stripped the inside of one of the set screws and need to take the adapter to work to get it pulled out. Grrrrr.
I was actually going to reduce the gap to see if I could save air without a huge impact on velocity–but I’ll end up going both ways and including power wheel settings, too.
I’m an engineer. I can see a nice factorial experiment coming out of this with at least two variables (top hat clearance and power wheel setting) and maybe a third variable (pellet type/weight). Since air is regulated pressure should be nearly constant so that won’t come into play.
I can see it now . . . nice bushy tail up on a branch, 35 yards out. I pull out my pocket computer and calculate the most effective AND efficient combination of TH clearance, PW setting, and pellet. I adjust the TH. I adjust the PW. I select the right pellet. I load the round. Then I look up and realize the squirrel has been gone for 45 minutes while I’ve been figuring out how to shoot it.
Sigh. 😳
Have you tried increasing the gap of the top hat to increase the velocity.
Shot it today with the 1400 PSI regulated air and CP heavies. Ranged from 869 to 876 fps with the PW right on the bottom. I’m happy. Tried turning the PW up to 4 and only got a couple FPS out of it. Maybe tomorrow I’ll try turning it up further.
I’ve got some Uen Jin 16.1’s coming. Eventually. Backordered. Sigh. Be interesting to see what they do.
At 25 yards I was right on for windage but 1 1/4 inches high when sighted for CO2 and CPHPs. Seemed to be a pretty tight group–but it moved side to side a little due to a stiff cross wind blowing the shooter (me) around a bit.
As soon as it calms down (June?) I’ll try it at 35 and 50 yards and see if it’s right on the money with no adjustments. If so, I’ll learn to use the mil dot reticule and estimate distances.
After one bottle of HPA regulated to 1400 (the first 1000 PSI blew out from a stuck valve, grrrrr) I’m happy. Should easily get well over 100 shots out of a bottle. :>)
Yes I can make them scream,but thats not my intent…..I was aiming for
930fps which is where the cp’s are most accurate in my condor,also
aiming for a lot of shots ,, thats where the top hat adjustments worked
for me..both are important ….
Nice day here in Ky. Going to go out and injoy it….
Shelby
I’ve gotten a very consistent 875fps out of my Talon with 18inch .177 barrel using 7.9gr and a 950psi regged tank….
you should be screaming at 1400psi on a 24 inch barrel….
JUST A THOUGHT
Somthing I did’nt know when I orderd mine….
You have to fill the tank thru the regulator
you can’t fill thru the co2 adaptor….Reason
being you can’t force air thru the regulator
back into the tank..Use the foster fitting on
the regulator….
Shelby
Oh yes
I have a 1400psi regulated 24″ .177 condor…
with the correct top hat setting you can get 950fps ….
with 10.5gr cp’s…..
Shelby
I don’t think so, but time will tell. I’d expect more like 800 fps.
I’m not sure why you think 7.5 fpe isn’t enough to hunt with. That’s more than my R7 and I’ve done a bunch of what I consider serious hunting with it.
As always it’s placement not power that carries the day. For pest type critters around farms, sometimes this level is ideal to the task IMO. You’ll have plenty of energy for say squirrels at 50 yards (over 5 fpe remaining) if you can make an accurate hit. You won’t be getting a hardware solution to marksmanship issues.
Doug Owen
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Thanks for sharing the info on your CO2 setup Sailor!
I’ve been thinking about having the CO2 option for one of my Condors for backyard shooting without all that power of HPA, or even getting a 18″ Talon .177 with CO2 for Starlings and stuff..
High 800’s is very nice for CP heavies. That’s some excellent hunting power to 50yds and beyond for squirrel, rabbit, etc.
I was under the impression you could get 200-300 shots out of the big CO2 tank (48ci?). I guess 1400psi is too much pressure to get that many shots? Maybe I ‘m thinking of 1,000psi or less?
What regulated CO2 pressure do you guys think (or know) would yield about 775-800fps with .177 Kodiak or CP Heavies (CPH)? and how many shots can I expect? Or is it better to go with a JDSairman regulated HPA tank since I fill my PCP’s from a SCUBA anyway?