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31" Condor

The owner wanted a longer barrel than easily available, so had Lilja make him a SS 30″ barrel in .258″

When I measured it, it appears to be closer to 31″…even after cutting the breech and new crown.

This is a LONG barrel. Here is the 31″ barrel (top) next to a ‘standard’ 24″ barrel (bottom):

This build now begs the question: how to attach the ldc? This photo shows a mock up with all the frames, barrels, and the ldc in the proper positions relative to each other. The frame on top is my 18″ barrelled, .25 condor that I cut and threaded externally for a large 2″ ldc which I never got around to making, no time to play with toys. It’s just in the picture as I was playing with the idea of threading the customer’s condor the same way and building a 2″ ldc for this condor. But, I simply don’t have the time to do it, so decided to make an extension to the existing condor.

Here is the extension being bored to match the internal ID of the condor:

And threaded to go into the condor’s front end:

Here is the collar attachment I had to make for this type of threading project; it goes onto the condor’s frame to hold it securely while being theaded. There is also a solid 1.xxx” tool steel mandrel on the inside of the stripped receiver:

In place in the steady rest, the toolsteel mandrel is what is being clamped in the lathe to turn the whole thing. I took pictures after it was all done, sorry, too retarded to remember to take pics before threading it:

Internal threading finished:

Extension screwed into frame:

And painted:

Checking alignment down the pipe:

The breech waist in the barrel was cut larger than the normal .309″ because the barrel is stainless, which is not quite as strong as carbon steel. It was noticeably easier to cut when I was making the breech waist. To give it slightly more strength, I made the breech slightly larger, and this means it will require a new breech. Here I have finished the breech, just have to install the handle and do the sear cutout on the bottom. Did I tell you how much I HATE cutting internal O ring grooves??

That’s as far as I got today and I am beat. Don’t ask me how fast she can shoot a 7 ring slug. Haven’t assembled it yet. Will edit the post and add more as I finish it up.

walt

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I wonder how much of that stuff isn’t his…

That will happen with the 30″ I’m building you. Should shoot right around 1040-1050.

quote Dyotat100:

Well if it’s 31″ and the breech is cut off it will be 28.25″. Then if it there is a choke that would have to be cut off. Would have to slug it to find out.

Could always build another gun with what you get back. Worst case it would have a 26″ or so barrel. Cedric’s barrel is only 26.625″ long.

It’s choked, Walt had me order it that way. Not sure what he cut the breech at, just that it’s larger then normal. I found a email that says he cuts his at .317, but I’ll have to wait and see.

Would like to get the slugs right around 1050fps if possible.

Well if it’s 31″ and the breech is cut off it will be 28.25″. Then if it there is a choke that would have to be cut off. Would have to slug it to find out.

Could always build another gun with what you get back. Worst case it would have a 26″ or so barrel. Cedric’s barrel is only 26.625″ long.

quote Dyotat100:

Problem is you said it’s choked and the breech needs to be .374″. You don’t want a choke for slugs.

So it’s useless for a slug gun? I was hoping choke could be cut off, but I don’t know anything about it. Does the breech make it useless now?

Problem is you said it’s choked and the breech needs to be .374″. You don’t want a choke for slugs.

quote dman1114:

just read through this … So when you get your stuff back finally, you going forward with the big 31″?

I’m hoping Doug will be able to use some of the stuff for my .257 build,if not I may be selling it. I would like to be able to use that Lilja barrel, it wasn’t cheap and not sure if anyone else would be intersted in it.

keep us updated. Hopefully you will get everything back and maybe some cool stuff that they assume is yours that belonged to Walt. 😀

May he roast in hell 😈 😈 😈

just read through this … So when you get your stuff back finally, you going forward with the big 31″?

Talked to evidence room yesterday. They are mailing me the release form.

The lady I talked to doesn’t know much about guns, but it sounds like I’ll be getting MOST of my stuff back.

Barrel is questionable, there was only one listed, so maybe one was on the gun and they didn’t count that? They are also not sure if they can mail the tanks back, I said they can if they take the air out, if there is air in them.

I’m hoping for a good outcome and that I get most of my stuff and its shipped back properly, but I have no idea how police handle items.

Im curious as to what happened with Walt.
A few years back he was known here as a stand up guy who did what he said he would do.

Drugs? Mental illness? Health and or financial disaster? I dont know,but something must have went south in his life.

Not trying to make excuses for him. If he is still able to email or talk on the phone there is no excuse for not telling someone whats going on with their stuff.

I hope for a good outcome here for all involved,
Tag

Yeah, or yes sir, sounds good send everything, including his other guns too!!

They already went to his house and got it. I’m now waiting to get it from the police.

hmmm, idk if the police will deal with this stuff… sounds like a personal issue to me. Highly doubt if the local pd will come to his house and get whats yours back to ya. If it comes down to a civil court case for money, then maybe. Gluck.

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