43gr Einjins for 100yds+
Hi guys,
I have a Talon Tunes .25 barrel (20″). The rifle I pulled it from was a Talon tuned by TT but I’m not sure how long ago as it was only doing 640fps with Jsb Kings-sticky valve and hammer etc, it obviously didn’t come like that from Tony so I’m assuming the previous owner used the wrong lube at some stage.
I stripped and cleaned everything, lubed and reassembled and the rifle then shot the Kings at just under 1100fps. The velocity was then brought down to 930fps and accuracy was exceptional.
Now what I’m planning is to use the heaviest ammo available where I live (Eunjin 43gr) for long range shooting, our problem here is wind. Am I wasting my time with Eunjins?
I did a search earlier and all the reports I read mentioned that the 43grs were giving 1″ or smaller groups at 50-60yrds.
My idea is to use it on crows as they rarely allow me to get closer than 150yrds.
Any advice will be appreciated.
Thanx Nick
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If you are not killing them with JSBs at that fps it is probably because you don’t have a solid hit. At this velocity all your shots should have an exit hole. If that is the case additional gr. will not make much difference. Shoot crows with what ever is most accurate in your gun and aim for the upper chest, neck and head. If you have a solid hit they will drop….
I might be a bit late to this part, but I get pretty decent accuracy from my stock ss at 100. I can smack tennis balls 7/10 times, and the 3 that are misses are my fault. Every once in a while I get flyers, but still not that bad. And yes, they do smack the hell out of whatever they hit. 😈
I’ve a 22 Talon and I struggled to kill a crow with four shots of JSB 18grs at same fps you are getting at about 30 yards so I’m amazed at the ranges you are killing crows with those pellets. Eujin 28gr on the other hand and its lights out every time. So you are getting to get the job done with 43gr Eunjins at a lot less than 900fps. I wont shoot birds with the JSB18gr again, they are supremely accurate, but they are just no hunting pellet in my book. But hay, each to their own.
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Thanx RC, there arent many of us airgun freeks around who are prepared to put in the time and dedication to push our rifles to the max and beyond and keep trying to find ways around a problem. Any advice from yourself or Cedric is valuable as it is ‘first hand knowledge’ and not ‘hear say’.
@On The Edge-unfortunately importing Jerry’s slugs wont be a viable option due to import costs.
@Maw-we dont have the Beemans here in South Africa but luckily we do have Baracudas, i’ll give them a try aswell.
Many thanx for the input guys, if anyone else can add anything-please share.
Beemans, shoot good in my Tony barrel, like them, and Benjamins, I like them too.
Glad to help Nick and I enjoy your posts.
Thanx RC, I was hoping that either yourself or Cedric would ‘pop in’. I have no doubt that the Kings would do the job-and save me abit of time ( which is in short supply at the moment.) I have a few tins of Kings, will test them at 150yrds and further. They’ll definitely out perform the .22 (18grs) and may be enough to get the job done.
Nick,
I personally would stick with the Kings or maybe go to Barracuda’s as most shootersdo not get that good of accuracy with the Eujins at ranges you are wishing.
Kings would still do a great job at 150 yards.
If venue and the resultant legal liability were no problem, I would personally go with a TJ Barrel and RLvalve from RLAirguns and a 257420 Lyman mold. You would have it all then.
Guys don’t get hurt by this, this is not the Yellow forum, if you don’t know the answer, stick around for a while until someone who does before you answer, it will answer the original question, and enlighten you at the same time. Anything else just leads people down an expensive and futile path.
Thanx a lot for your input Birdman, I’ve done extensive testing and taken quite a few crows between 130-165yrds. I’m shooting a Condor .22 (Jsb 18grs @ 930fps). I’ve had very good results at 130-150yrds, but I’m trying to get my rig setup to handle light breezy conditions better.
My aim is to get clean kills at longer (than 150yrds) ranges, the 18gr I think are at their limit to obtain clean kills at around 150yrds. The crows aren’t tough birds especially on centre mass shots directly from the front or back.
The 43grs if accurate will hit like a baseball bat even at around 180yrds, I’ll start them at 980fps and work down(if necessary) untill I’m satisfied. There’ll be enough power for clean kills but I need accuracy first and secondly ammo that’ll buck the wind better.
This crow was at 225yrds, you can hear how the 18gr Jsb hits the metal 2″ right of it. I’ve taken crows at that range but I’m taking chances and would be a lot happier knowing that I’m delivering enough lead that’ll get the job done cleanly. The crows are a problem around here and being as wary as they are, I’m forced to take long shots in order to try and gain some control on their numbers.
This crow was taken minutes before the vid above was taken shooting from another position at the same pylon.
What I’m saying is the accuracy is there but heavier lead will do the job better. That’s why I would like to get info re the 43gr accuracy at extended ranges.
To Nick S510 , You say that you have a TT .25cal. barrel and you want to shoot crows at 150 yds. with a 43 gr. pellet or what ever best grain pellet for that range . I’am also new to PCP Air Guns and you did not tell us what type of gun you are you shooting with , your S510 , Talon , Condor , etc. . I’am in no ways an expert in PCP air guns , but as an Ex-Vietam Recon Sniper you need to know the density of your target for max penteration at given ranges for the weight of your projectile . Again , like I said , I’m not an expert with air guns . I know a crow is very dense because I shoot alot of them with my TalonSS in .22cal. . I may be wrong and if so , I apologize , but I belive to my shooting experience , that at 150 yds. , shooting a crow with its body density as it is with any pellet and getting a kill may not be possible and getting a clean kill is what you want and not an injured animal . I hope my imput will help you with your shooting endeavors .
FROM: the birdman
Try Jerry’s slugs.
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Thanks, yes I will take more care where I place the shot on crows from now on, as the ones my way take some killing.