7 mm Condor Build
I started this last year sometime and thought I started a thread.
Barrel is a 37″ 7 mm 1:14 twist from TJ’s. Will be carbon lined from where the hammer stops when cocked all the way to the threads on the muzzle. .040″ carbon goes through the brushing and stops just before the end. Then there is .090″ going to muzzle thread. I counter bored the bushing and the .090″ carbon so the .040″ slides into the .090″ and the .090″ slides .500″into the bushing. This will be all bonded with epoxy and then the dimples to locate the bushing will be drill. Then the bushing will be located and expoxied to the carbon.
I’m looking for at least 1000 fps with 120 gr and maybe close to 1100 with 100 gr. I planned on making this a hpa gun working on 3600-4000 psi. So I think the numbers won’t be a problem. It is just how low of pressure I can get them.
I got 1081 fps with 94 gr in .257 on 4000 psi. So with a little bigger diameter slug and 5 more inches of barrel I don’t see why I won’t.
Only time will tell. I make a piece here and there for it when time permits.
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It’s just a frame that has been striped. It was blue. When gun is done it will all get bead blasted and black anodized.
I probably missed something, but did you machine your frame from a billet or is that a raw casting you can purchase somewhere?
Looks nice!!
Very cool, I gotcha! The aluminium block not only insets along the bottom but is inletted kinda like a “U” channel. If that doesnt increase rigidity, I dont know what will! So do you suppose that you have resolved much of the frame flex issues? It would seem that the attachment point of the frame to the valve/tank will always be a rather weak link to the overall rigidness.
That is a pretty massive block that you had started out with! How much added weight, and/or how much does this change the balance?
I suppose that the way that we are using these configurations are more akin to bench guns that the weight is somewhat of a nonissue.
Do ya think you might ever consider a full stock such as the MadDog style of stocks?
Also another thing I have pondered is how practical would a remote air source be?
With much of the work you have done with valving and recent experiments with regulators, you must have a good grasp on what it would require. Obviously there is a need for a expansion chamber or a certain charge volume immediately at the ready for discharge. A adapter such as the Airforce Co2 adapter isnt going to provide it. Could a header type of valve chamber be built inside of a more conventional stock. Maybe within the void created where the buffer tube is found inside of an M16/AR15 style of stock?
Man, we gotta find some time to go shooting together sometime soon!!!
No still using AF trigger. When I make my own frame the trigger will be redesigned. It will hold the hammer instead of blocking the hammer.
I will put a push on push off button safety on this also.
Cut out the trigger area and put just the trigger in. Now I use .125″ stainless pins that just push in. Once guard is on they can’t come out.
So that big block of aluminum (2024?) is more than just a trigger guard? Not simply similiar to a WOK but this will actually be part of the trigger housing? In other words this is going to be your own actual take on a Modular “lower reciever” part. You are going to top it off with your own heavier duty tubular frame and scope rail?
Wow! If I am envisioning what I think you are getting at and where this is going….
Doug, I think several of us have kinda been seeing this progression and most have probably thought that it would just be a matter of time before you were going to end up building your own frame.
The chinese extrusion was kinda false start… (did anyone, anywhere, ever complete a gun from such extrusions?)
The bigger diameter? I can imagine that the larger diameter will afford you a larger breech and breech bore. The larger breech bore will let ya keep more meat on the breech end of the barrel and not get too thin on your lead in end? Also can run bigger bore tophat and valve? Maybe even move part of your regulator up into the frame?
Many possibilities,,,, I look forward to seeing where this goes! I think we live vicariously through you and your projects!
Well, next trick would be your own trigger group!
I dunno Doug, looks like you will soon have yourself a complete gun of your own.
I think ya should call it the 7mm “Californian” built in the USA from the land of Movie Stars and Hot Tubs 😳
The Airforce never seemed too exclusive after seeing similiar designs like the Logun for instance….. :4:
Was trying to come up with a way to add even more strength to my frames. I’m already going to replace the scope rail so this only adds to it.
I have to cut out the trigger area still. It was kind of a test to see hard hard it was to make. Was not that bad and now that I have one to copy it will be a lot easier.
The next step is to make a complete new frame with larger OD and ID.
Wow I am really inspired to get into this type of mods for my old condor. What is the first thing to do to get such a kit? I began casting my own bullets for .357 and .457 samyang recluse, light hunter and evanix rainstorm. I would love to know if you cast your own bullets and what type of mold works best for those velocities. I recently watched a condor shooting .58 1000 grain bullets at 1000 fps and wow was that ever impressive. I live in Canada and want to start preparing for the zombie apocalypse 🙂 i still have my eye set on the texan because I recently casted Lyman 480grain bullets. 457 and would love to get over 500fpe. Been plinking out 200-600 yards at a farm with 9mm.
No sorry. Haven’t had any time lately. I started the hammer but it’s not finished.
Any updates on this??
It’s Gonna be a HAMMER!!! :8:
😀 Knife
See, this what I am looking for…
Sorry still has grub screws with dimples on the barrel. Only way to hold the barrel in the frame. I don’t tighten them that tight and use red loctite on the ones holding bushing to barrel and blue on bushing to frame.
I have been using green loctite to bond bushings to the barrel on the last 3 guns I built.
Nice! I really like the bushing and Carbon Fiber setup. I think it is a good thing bonding the bushings and getting away from the set screws and dimples on the barrel.
I’d love to eventually do another .257 barrel exactly like the same way you have done those.
Great to see some of the new stuff you are creating! Your work is always amazing. I always feel very fortunate having the opprotunity to chat with you and hear about some of the mad stuff ya got going on in your mind!
Thanks for all ya do!!!!!!!
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Very nice Doug- as always! You continue to inspire!!