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A Long Range Session (Corsair .308) part 1 of 4

For a while now, I’ve been wanting to sight my big bores (especially the Corsair) in at 100 yards. I’ve also wanted to do a couple of long range videos with not only my big bores but also with a couple of my small bores just to show some of the REACH and ACCURACY that the modern day airgun is capable of. So this weekend i figured, “WHY NOT, NOW IS AS GOOD A TIME AS ANY TO GET STARTED”. Since the forecast called for a calm morning but rising winds in the late morning to afternoon, i would start with the big bores. The Corsair is up first in this 4 part series.

While the morning started off as planned, throughout the shoot, i had encountered a POI shift that for some strange reason i did not catch while out in the field. During the shooting/filming, the POI had shifted upwards all of a sudden and the gun would not group as tight as it had been previously doing. I was later (at home) to find out the CLAMP on the rear scope ring had come out of the dovetail somehow and that would later explain why my POI shifted upwards during certain parts of the shoot. After tightening down the scope ring when i got home, i also installed another scope that i had lying around just to take “a broken scope” out of the equation the next time i go shooting.

The Session: As stated in the video, long range to ME with an airgun is anything from 75 yards to infinity. And infinity is a word that can be determined by the shooter. My max range is 200 yards as i can easily accomplish this range with my scope settings and mil-dots but reaching out further like 250-300 or even 400 yards usually requires too much scope adjustment than I’d be willing to play with. I like to be able to use the cross hairs for one distance (100 yards) then follow the mil-dots for the extended ranges (125 up to 200 yards) without having to adjust my scope turrets up and down. So, in this video, my ranges are from 91 yards out to 200 yards. As i started the sight in, i decided to do 2 shots per fill then top off and make the necessary elevation adjustments. REMEMBER, BIG BORE AIR GUNS ARE NOT DESIGNED TO GIVE MAXIMUM SHOTS PER FILL BUT TO GIVE MAXIMUM POWER FOR THE FIRST SHOT OR TWO. I was quite surprised to see that at 100 yards, i was putting both bullets in the same hole. Needless to say, its very satisfying to see your first shot land on the paper then your second shot makes the 1st hole just a tad larger…lol. Here are a few pics of me moving the POI into position to start shooting the “REACTIVE” targets:

First 2 shots on paper were the 155 gr Flat Points that i cast

2nd, i make a little elevation adjustment and shoot the 148.5 gr HP’s. These are among my favorite bullets in this gun and what i shoot the most

3rd, i top off to 3700 psi by accident but i shoot for a group anyways. My guns sweet spot is 3500-3600 psi. 3-148.5 gr HP’s

Purpose of MY long range shooting sessions: Removing “TAKING GAME at extended ranges” out of the equation, the purpose is to show what the modern day airgun is capable of accuracy and power wise. Airguns, in the eyes of many shooters/consumers are still considered not very powerful and are often sneered at by the unknowing and while they are certainly NOT powder burners many of them can and will completely pass through WALLS, FENCES, GARAGE DOORS, CAR DOORS, ANIMALS, 2 x 4’s, 4 x 4’s, smash heavy cinder blocks, shoot out to 600+ yards, and the list goes on and on. The plate that I’m shooting at in the video is 1/8″ thick stainless steel and the Corsair still manages to FOLD it at 50 yards and crater it at 100-200 yards using soft lead bullets. So much so that after ever session, i have to bang out the craters with my 8lb sledge hammer using a lot of force. Those dents do not come out easy but the Corsair sure puts them in easily…lol. At 100+ yards, upon impact, the bullets TOTALLY explode and you can only find lead shards near the target.

I love long range shooting and i love it even more with airguns. Despite having scope ring issues during filming, i was still very impressed with the gun as that session proves what I’ve thought all along. With good ammo and a good gun, a some practice (lol…i still need some), accurate long range shooting with an airgun is very possible and fun. Enjoy the video:

STAY TUNED for 3 more sessions!!!
Session 2: Long range with the Jack Haley 457
Session 3: Long range with the Theoben Rapid 25
Session 4: Long range session with either my 20 cal Logun Solo or the Crosmods Disco .22

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Thanx Very much GRADJE

LOL…..i can do that. Seeason 5 on the menu

I am waiting for Session 5 – Long range shooting with the modded Condor 25 caliber.

ha!! Gradje 🙂

I saw him shooting: TOP!!!

GRADJE, is there a web link to these matches? Do you guys do pictures and video and post them of these matches? Would love to take a look see

Last sunday we had a 100m bigbore match. Judge for yourself:

http://www.luchtbuks.net/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=87607

Gradje(2003) 😛

How much drift too the right are you getting between 100 and 200 yards ? Marvin

In Romania we don’t have many hunter’s/optic’s stores and the few that exist are poorly supplied, so, not much of a comparison between products . So, we have to make orders from the USA and learn the hard way the saying “you get what you pay”.

Spotting scopes are similar to regular scopes when it comes to price/quality ratio. I’ve bought an Hawke 6-24×56 and a NcStar 20-60×60 ($400 and $100) .

The Hawke is pretty good for the money but not good enough for video recording. Eye relief is critical and it darkens to much for my camera and myself. The Hawke that Ted is having is 6-20, and it seems that his glass is a little better. Sold mine and waiting for my Sightron which some say is as good or better than Nightforce. I know I over do it for an airgun but my eyes are not that good and I need all the help I can get.

Buying the NcStar, and admitting it on forum, is the most embarrassing thing I’ve done in my entire life. What was I thinking? I just wanted to see pellet holes at 100 meters, and to have a big FOV while I’m at it. I didn’t get either of course and sold that sucker for whatever money the first buyer offered. After reading A LOT of forums I concluded that you have to spend at least $300, and that when you are on a budget. Read a lot, save a lot, and get the best spotting scope your money can buy. Skip the money loosing, embarrassing steps, that me and others were taking, especially if you have stores that you can compare products 😥

Marv, thats actually a good idea. I honestly never thought of it. i don’t have a spotting scope but now you seriously got me thinking man. I should get one for that purpose. I do often think of shooting 2 cameras at the same time but that walk back and forth twice to set up and turn the camera off just URKs me…lol. Thanx for that idea.

MAW, those HP’s work very well on our desert jack rabbits…bwuhhhhaahhh….bwuhhhahhhaaaaahhh….bwuuuhhhhhaaaahh (evil laugh)

Butcher. I’m sure its more accurate than NOT accurate. Here is what I believe. 1st, when you insert info based on bullet diameter and weight the program has numbers in it based off of Copper Jacketed bullets. Now, lets think just about those bullets. The problem with that is, every manufacturers dimensions are so different. The SECANTS and OGIVES and a hundred other variable are all different. Its like when a reloading book sais, put 12 grains of Bullseye power under any 250 gr bullet. Well, Hornady 250 gr is way different than the Nosler 250 grainers. So the BC numbers that program gives will probably be a somewhat CLOSE number than a EXACT number. The most accurate number from that program in 308 to me is more than likely the 308 SPITZER shapes.

Of course, now that i just took some base numbers from my CORSAIR last night, i will have to go out and shoot over my chrony at either 50 yards or 100 yards to get a more accurate BC number…………YIKES!! Anybody have a spare chrony i can use?………………..lol

You probable already know this . But if you have a spotting scope you can film throw it to get close ups .Marvin

You shoot alot of hollow points ahhh, do I smell a dead animal in your future, good shootin to say the least and as always a good video, I’m really glad to hear your hollow points worked out for you.

Awesome video as usual Tofazfou. Digging the heavy intro music…..pretty sure I dropped a third testicle after listening for 10 seconds or so lol!

I was curious how accurate that calculator is with rifle boolits at long range…….does it seem about right?

Thanx guys for the comments.

Kazzz, i hear a few things about the Beaumonts but SEE VERY LITTLE. My buddy Paul has one and he keeps switching the barrels on his. He went from 25 to 32 to NOW 308. He sais that his will shoot 160 grain bullets at 940 FPS but is not accurate at that setting so he has gone to 820 fps and said that he can cover 3 shots at 100 yards with a nickel easily.

RC, i definitely would go with the mildot. You can use all those dots plus the thicker duplex post for even further ranges. Thanx for having such positive comments on my video.

Marvin, using a calculator that i got from Butcher and inputting the info, im getting roughly a 4 ft drop from 100 to 200 yards at the velocities im pushing. Remember too, these are CENTERFIRE shaped bullets so they retain their velocity pretty well. And it shows on video.

DVDRW, i do use P.I.P. for some of my videos but not for all. You have to understand the nature of using 2 cameras for filming LONG RANGE. You end up with a lot of DEAD SPACE FILM while you set up 1 camera at 200 yards then you walk downrange to get set up. Thats like 5-10 minutes of deadspace for a few shots. Then you have to walk back down range to turn the camera off. Its work and it uses a lot of batteries for only a little video. If you look at my INTRO to this video, you will see a melon shot with P.I.P. I have a lot of video that i’ve never shown or edited and its got PIP. I also do have a scope camera and camera mount. I’m one of the first to do it (long ago now) and post videos. But, a big bore and a scoped camera isn’t as nice to look at like watching a small bore recoil on video. And believe me, i’m not mad at you. Nothing wrong with suggestions at all. its what helps me make better videos and thats what i’m all about. Thanx man. And stay tuned for more videos.

Great video Tofazfou !

I didn’t knew Corsair are that accurate.

Fix those rings, try and eliminate all variables. There are plenty that can’t be fixed but fix those that you can.

Also, you need a good scope camera and a camera mount.
The field camera placed closer to the target would be nice too, and the two videos shown together with PIP feature.
Please don’t get upset by me. It’s just something that I would do.
Your videos are great just the same and that’s why I’ve subscribed.

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