Air leak, new AF Talon-P

Recently received new Talon-P w/Spin-Loc, neat beast, looking forward to slinging more lead once TT parts and Mad Dog stock arrive. 😎
Any how, filled it first time, mounted a cheesy 4x on top, shot 8 shots, refilled to 3000 PSI that late afternoon. Following afternoon pressure dropped to 2800ish. Let the pistol sit another night untouched no refill, this afternoon it had dropped down to 2600ish PSI. Hmmmm…
Removed the tank/spin-Loc from frame, quicky soapy water spray around fill port, gauge, spin-loc, no signs of bubbles. Blew everything off,refilled to 2900PSI, (shot the fill tank down to 2900 yesterday with AA S510), attached balloons to various parts, over Spin-Lok body, over filler valve, and over gauge face. Wasn’t able to cover the fill port to spin-lok threads or the gauge to spinlok threads or the spinlok to tank threads so covered the rest in a nit-rile glove. Should help to narrow down where the leak is coming from.

Constructive input/help/tips, negative or positive always welcome.
Thanks,
Paul

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Participant

March 18, 2014 at 3:45 am

quote the_starlingassassin:

check out flea bay.
i got this 4000psi gauge for my talonp for $4.49 shipped 😯
……..

Thanks for the tip, bought 2.

quote Jobobo:

Who was the seller on that?

Found mine here. 😎

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121173495133?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D121173495133%26_rdc%3D1

Hope that helps,
Paul

jobobo

March 18, 2014 at 3:21 am

the-starlingassassin

March 17, 2014 at 10:11 pm

check out flea bay.

i got this 4000psi gauge for my talonp for $4.49 shipped 😯

its a 1.5″ diameter gauge so its bigger around than the stock gauge,
and it sticks out farther,
but it does not seem to get in my way,
its easy to read,and its accurate,

it actually matches the large glycerin filled wika gauge on my joe b tank :8:

pandemic

March 10, 2014 at 8:49 pm

:8:

March 10, 2014 at 8:23 pm

AirForce promptly returned my E-mail, quick phone convo and a new tank is being pressure tested overnight and ships out to me tomorrow, I will send the leaky one back when the new one arrives.

Great service from AirForce. 😀

March 10, 2014 at 1:16 am

Sure thing I had to send one of my tanks back the day I got them because it was leaking

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March 10, 2014 at 1:12 am

quote PANDEMIC:

Try to tighten that it is a burst disc if that doesn’t work send that shit back to pyramid air or airforce that will be covered under warranty and you won’t have to pay for the new gauge

It’s friggen tight already, got it to budge but don’t feel comfortable tightening it any further.

Contacting AirForce for a fix/replacement. :sadn:

Thanks again Pan for the help.

March 10, 2014 at 1:00 am

March 10, 2014 at 12:55 am

fill the tank up again then stick the entire top of that tank in a glass or bowl of water and look for bubbles then dry it of well and some rem oil on the steel of that valve then you will know where the real leak is

Thanks Pandemic, covered the parts with the balloons just in case knowing those parts aren’t leaking, (didn’t help protect the gauge though, more below pics), the large set screw for the SpinLok has 2 small holes drilled in the side of it that intersect with the Allen tool and that is where the bubbles are coming from, nice slow steady stream of air. Is that set/grub screw something other than just a set/grub screw hence the little holes drilled into the sides of it?
Whats the fix for this leak? Cant image just tightening it is going to seal those two holes in the side of the grub/set screw….

As an aside, didn’t notice the air port in back of gauge till I removed it from the water, gauge is now 1/4 full of water that doesn’t want to come out of that little port, suppose I’ll be replacing that soon due to corrosion down the road, would actually like a broader sweep variant any how, anyone swapping out broader sweep gauges, if so what’s available?

Thanks again guys,
Paul

March 9, 2014 at 11:34 pm

March 9, 2014 at 11:26 pm

4 hours later the glove is inflating;

Removed the glove and the balloons covering the gauge face, top-Hat/valve and fill port, those balloons are still completely deflated, leak must be where the gauge threads into the SpinLok sleeve or the fill port threads into SpinLok sleeve, or the where the tank threads into the SpinLok sleeve.

Anyone know of good way to isolate those areas for testing? Thought about submerging in water but not sure if that is acceptable with the Top-Hat, valve, gauge, fill port internals etc.

Air leak, new AF Talon-P

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