Airforce Texan: 500+ ft-lbs
Found this on pyramid air’s website. What do you guys think? I wonder what the groups look like @ 50 and 100 yards?
Airforce Airguns .45 Caliber Texan, “It’s a BEAST”: SHOT Show 2015: http://youtu.be/5VnnTRkQH9w
Airforce Texan air riflePrecharged pneumaticSingle-shotSidelever11mm dovetail34″ barrel2-stage trigger (adj. for position only)2.06-lb. trigger-pullAutomatic safetyTextured grip490cc tankPressure-relief device3000 psi (200 bar) max fill pressureAdjustable powerExtended optics rail7.65 lbs. (without scope & mount)No baffles/is not silenced13.875″ to 15″ length of pullButtplate can be rotated right and left for some cast-on and cast-off adjustabilityIncludes 4×32 scope and mount (unmounted)Made in USA
AirForce Airguns recommends using only lead projectiles.
The AirForce Texan is the world’s most powerful production air rifle: .45-caliber bullets going up to 1,000 fps and getting 500+ ft-lbs.
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Whitewolf posted the entire inner workings of the rifle, hope he don’t mind me posting this, http://s42.photobucket.com/user/WhitewolfK5/slideshow/Air%20Force%20Texan%2045cal
Marko
also can someone post a pic of the valve, very curious to see how they did it
i fucked around with sabot’s in my .308 and .457, my findings where that theres is not enough speed for the air to peel off the sabot in .308 (using .223 projectile) in .457 the sabot would come off but not in a consistent manner so the bullets would do all kinds of crazy things, like keyhole, and completely miss the 12″ plate at 50y ! so that didnt work
what i did find with my homemade texan ok its a talon with 34″ .457 quackenbush barrel…it would push 142 grain roundball at between 900 and 1100 fps…hit really hard, and i could lob them out to hit a 12″ plate at 200y with some consistency
a really heavy muzzle weight helped a lot, but made the rifle a pain to hunt with….i miss airgunning….i got the yard cleaned up and can now shoot 40y yay….so i will get the kids into shooting and see where that takes us
I haven’t played to much with the spring yet but I did order a heavier spring to shoot at 3500 psi. Today I shot so many rounds of home made bullets. 294 grain bullets worked the best at 125 yards. 220 grains were too light and the wind pushed it over a foot. 405 grain bullets are a treat and I get about 3 or 4 heavy shots from 3000 to 2000 psi before topping it off again. Airforce airguns kept me excited about pcps. I still dream of a .257 barrel for my condor or .308 or .357 barrels for my Texan. Right now .457 bullets make amazing long distance explosions when shredding targets.
If I turn the spring all way down it wont push a 405 grain pellet out of the barrel,,. Still waiting on Mr. Porter to give us a few pointers, I got 10 Airforce Airguns and all of them are sweet ,, But this one is off by a long shot as far as foot pounds are supposed to be. Feet Per Second is specks from 500 to 1000 Plus more on the 146 grain pellet, Never been able to get 3 close power shots on a fill, the first being the best and the other 2 shots speed drops like a rock. I’ve seen the people with the promotion guns seem to do good, but no actual chrono test done with the Promotion Guns, Ive looked all over the web, Mr. Hollopoint has shown the best test, bit still questionable . So if any one would mind showing us a test actually with scales and chrono temperature, Sea level hight ect. I can get a better understanding on how the gun is going to work. I really am not into hot rodding my Guns . I just like for them to do what the techs on the advertisement says they get it to do without me having to send my Rifle around the country in the little brown truck. :rofl:
Can you give me a few pointers ? I put mine back in it’s box for a keepsake 350 foot pounds is tops,, from 500 feet per second to 150 Feet per second depending on the pellet. Any Information would be nice.. Thanks.. :winkn:
Mine was the same only pushing 350 FPE. but I found out the reg. on the ninja tank was only putting 2400 in the gun. I will get out and test some more in coming weeks. Its alot of work loading the genset, compressor, and all the guns to go to the field.
To my understanding if you shoot the 405gr you need to turn the spring down? I have not changed anything from factory yet.
Can you give me a few pointers ? I put mine back in it’s box for a keepsake 350 foot pounds is tops,, from 500 feet per second to 150 Feet per second depending on the pellet. Any Information would be nice.. Thanks.. :winkn:
I ordered a heavier spring for my Texan to shoot at 3500 psi. It would be great to get 600+ FPE. I cast 220, 294, 405 & 480 grain bullets right now.
So I just tuned a Texan for a friend today. It was a little under powered from the factory. It was making 345fpe with a 304grn bullet and would valve lock over 3000psi. After I spent a few hours with it, it is now a monster. I’ve got it making 558fpe with a 345grn bullet. No more valvelock either. 2 shots , 558, 546, then third shot is 515fpe. 2 shots touching at 75, third about 1-2″ low. I’ve got a few more things to do over the next couple weekends if I can find the time. I know 600fpe can be had but I think 700 can be done. Sofar what I’ve done has been done with the factory spring.
And a lot better videoing of the event.
Thank You Sir, You, Cedric and Doug inspired me a year ago and did those above things last summer. I am on GTA now and completely built a new gun.Starting over and posted this thread there. Open thread and at 326 yds gun is shooting better than MOA.. I show some groups gun is shooting …….Video 326 yds http://www.gatewaytoairguns.org/GTA/index.php?topic=107762.0
Yes your video was at the bench. I put mine at the targets :winkn:
I’m and old man and got bored with F-Class competition to 1000 yds……..Air is a challenge………….Carl
Well done!
And a lot better videoing of the event.
roachcreek………Sorry Charlie, your 615 yd airgun shot may have been the first, but isn’t the longest. I did last summer 700 yds. Shot 4 cola cans. 3 on video, went and picked up camera. Set out another can and hit it, but no camera… Went on to hit steel target at 1065 yds…….Video of cans 700 yds https://youtu.be/lsKvOiJEnXQ 1065 yds https://youtu.be/d1–WcmZ2Cw
Check front page on CONDOR THREADS and just posted my new build and have 100 yd 1/2 inch groups and video this week at 326 yd accuracy.
Carl
Well shooting a new airgun without a chrony is ike virgin sex with a homely girl, after you get a chrony you see the real beauties you have been missing.
I suspect you going to find that your in the 740 FPS range at tops, judging by the true numbers I see from others and knowing what the Ranger did. With a 100 yard zeo you have slightly over 700 inches of drop. That is a stretch with the Bushnell scope you have. I have had two or three of that model in the past on airguns, and it is a damn good scope to around 150 yards, then old lady gravity cobined with the lack of adjustment will take the thrill off of trying to hit anything at 500 yards.
Now to reach 615 yards with the Haley 25, I used a Leupold VX3 Long Range with the Hollands MOA reticle. It had 107 inches of adjustment if I remember right, but that only got me to 500 yards with a much flatter shooter than what your Texan and 480 grainers can hope to fly. I ended up using the Burris Signature rings and still shimming them so much that I had a zero at 191 yards, at the bottom of the adjustent and dropped 610 inches at 615 yards. I could see half of my 36 inch barrel in the scope, it tilted that much.
The backstop in my video is a old mine tailing that was just outside my fence line, I could go out to 1100 yards and had a benchrest there to do so, but had the ranges marked out from 400 to 1100 yards in 100 yard increments,
I started on that range with 300 mags and M1A Supermatch, Stoner SR25 ect and used the range for over 20 years.
But I really started to lean with computer trajectory weblites like Handloader.com all the while using two Sharps rifles, a 74 Shilo #1 sporting rifle and a custom Borschardt, both n 45/100 and of course naked bullets.
But the thing is your jut evolving as a long range shooter, you got the gun, the casting equipment and you evidently have a place to kick up dust. Your really going to get hooked when you put a steel plate in the middle of all that dust your launching bullets at, shooting and waiting a second or two for a dust cloud or a triumphant ding is about as much fun as you can have wearing clothes.
Thing is no ballistic site will help you until you get the simplist of tools, that chrony. It will enlighten you, then when you plug in the numbers you will see that Dyotat was right about the loopy trajectory.
I never shot the Ranger past 260 yards, I shimed up the scope mounts for the VX3 Leeupold I had on it and sighted it in at the Vineyard where I had a 260 yard range. I could hold minute of elk rib cage, but those bullets wee falling fast at that range.
Important thing to do here on this site is to remember you rubbing shoulders with the pioneers in long range big bore airgun shooting, guys that understand air flow and shooting these guns. Listen to the advice of people like Dyotat and Tofazfu , I call him Cedric. Dyotat will tell you what can be done in different bore sizes with a particular valve and the machinists, like Dyotat and others hear wil tell you what can be done to alter a rifle to different barrels and still be able to use that valve. It is easy for a unknown gunsmith to post pictures of what he thinks he will do, two or three years later when that unknown gunsmith gets around to tackling the project of interchangeable barrels, the results may be far different, the guys with the big post numbers next to their avatars are the ones that you should listen to rather than the ones who tell you what you want to hear.
Sorry if this post is hard to read, I am doing better since they cut the right eye out last fall, but I still only see two letters at once and it makes correcting things a migraine trigger. I still shoot but with a Mrod in 177 and play with a Mrod in 25 with the WAR parts, which is why I am in the market for a Texan or even a hot 357.
The other thing is unless your a Trust Fund Baby, be prepared to spend momey like a Junkie that just won the lottery, this stuff is expensive and truly a real high.
Good luck with you endeavors.
My ex Ranger 45 serial @12 had a 28 inch barrel and a fill pressure of 4500, although 3800 or so was the sweet spot with the small diameter spring XP uses. It made 500 FPEa couple times, but struggled to that with 408 grain bullets. It was throwing the all weights at just about the same speed that the Texan shoots. The guys wih the longer barreled Rangers made a lot more FPE.
The TAG sure is lucky to have a long range shooter such as yourself to take up the slack when Cedric and Dy otat are busy shooting.
I will crony test it sometime but a 405 – 480 grain bullet makes a much louder sound and uses 300 psi of air each shot. I am awaiting a heavier spring to shoot at 3500psi rather than 3000. I love the Texan valve and hope it can be used for bigger calibers oneday.
Right now I a using a Bushnell legend 5×15 scope. I use the bottom mildot to shoot 300 yards with these big bullets. It’s nice to see the ground explode when it goes 500 yards away. I am surprised how much of a recoil is created using these bullet’s vs 220-300 grain bullets. It’s hard to shoot small bore pcps after this beast.
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New .457 owner here, and getting everything set up to try and slay a pig or two in the next couple of weeks. Reading past posts and this interested me, being several years old, the OP that is, and wondering if there had been minds changed from their original observations.