Bad-Ass Super-Lightweight 909 slugs!
If you own a SamYang 909 you are likely cutting yourself short by not trying these slugs.
My 909 seems to be really backwards when compared to other big-bore airguns (but in the best way for my purposes with this gun!). These slugs are all that AND a bag of chips! It produces the most fpe using the very lightest SWC made in .454 whilst most bigbore airguns get their highest energies with the heavier slugs!
I have yet to weigh these EPP/UG slugs myself, but I think they will weigh as advertised at about 155 grains in this BHN-6 alloy. I wanted to try the slightly harder alloy with this design due to the extremely low contact area of this slug. I had received a report of poor accuracy with these slugs cast in pure lead out of a stock 909, and was afraid the lead was so soft it was skipping the rifling due to the extremely low contact area. I decided to try a slightly harder alloy in an effort to avoid that issue.
I think I will likely see another 10 or so fps out of the EPP/UG’s in my rifle with a little fill pressure experimentation (I only did fills to 3100psi for the chrony) as others are matching the velocity of their roundball using the heavier EPP SWC in the SamYang. Roundball out of my 909LR does 870fps. That is bringing me to about 260fpe with a 155grainer for about 5 or 6 hard shots@50 yards!
The .454-sized EPP/UG’s and my 909LR make for a WICKED-accurate combination!!
Groups were one, and I mean ONE big ragged hole off the stix at 50 yards once sighted in. No re-filling between shots, either. Wish I had pictures but there was no camera only a video camera and we didn’t think to use it.
There was a coffee-cup sized target out at a lasered 80 yards that I was able to hit off of my steady stix three times in a row. I tested the 175 grain .45Slim design and they proved to be very accurate as well with limited testing, but I was just stupid-happy with the .454 EPP/UG’s so that is what I went with sighted DEAD-ON at 50 yards and somewhere around the second mil-dot low at 80 yards. From a 3100psi fill down to about 2000psi I was getting 5-6 very hard shots at the same point of aim at 50 yards.
That did a great deal to regain confidence in my ability to shoot the gun accurately after having hardly shot the rifle over the past 9-10 months.
Here are the EPP/UG’s compared to .454 RB and a 42grain EJ. The ones in the picture are BHN-9 or so. The ones I shot this past week are BHN-6.
Nutria hunting video is soon to come.
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I plan on getting set up for casting my own slugs for a .457 Outlaw.
Old lead roof jacks/flashing and lead pipe will make GREAT casting material… the lead is VERY soft. And free if you know where to look.
What is the norm size casting for a DAQ? .457 -.458? Where can I pick up a nice mold in the 400 gr range?
That fuckin sucks butcher. He is like the second guy to stop making GOOD QUALITY pure lead slugs for airguns. Everything else out there is HARD CAST. ARRRRRGGGGH!! I am really gonna get my own casting supplies.
Nope. He told me he would make my last order for my hunt, and that would be it. Luckily I ordered 500 of the EPP/UG’s, and 250 of the .45Slims, though I will need to size about 300 of the EPP’s I have left to .454 or so along with over half of my .45 Slims.
They won’t last me to long, though. I’ll be about out by the middle of winter I imagine if not sooner.
He may be saying that to drive up the price. Or not.
Cast easily? Hardly!
Mark Whyte cast these slugs for me, and they are his least favorite slug, saying they are the most difficult design he has to cast correctly. Soft lead makes it even harder to cast. He does not look forward to making them: that is what he told me.
Come to mention it, he is looking to hand off the airgun slug orders to another caster, as he no longer has the time/desire to do the smaller airgun orders.
I plan on dabbling a bit with the casting, but it would be awhile before I would take the time to challenge myself, and take that kind of time I’d need with a difficult-to-cast design such as the EPP/UG. I would much rather buy a mold and send it to a professional caster to make the slugs for me.
They are not hollow-based. They DO have a reduced diameter, bore riding heel (don’t the Gen2 .25’s have that?) which may be contributing to the stellar accuracy I experienced.
Here are the dimensions of this excellent .45 slug design. A quick selection of a few un-sized slugs cast in BHN-6 alloy measured between around .4575 and .458.
looks like those should cast easily too if you can get a mould. Are they “hollow base” or completely solid?
Looks like the Butcher is at again 8)
Gotta see the vid!
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The DAQ’s have .458 barrels. JimF used these 390grain slugs with great success on the hoghunt back in May.
http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.aspx?ItemID=5357fe2d-b75b-4f72-8f4e-b72d17327741
This might be a good one, too. Not much out there that can argue with 255grains; don’t see the need for 400 on anything smaller than an Elk when it compromises trajectory.
http://www.biglube.com/BulletMolds.aspx?ItemID=5f0e63f2-27c8-40c9-bfa1-b2e167b680e5