Best RWS spring rifle, your opinion?
Been looking @ 460, 350, 52, and 54.
I love the idea of not having to pump up my gun after I shoot 30 shots.
My Elite groups well @ 50 yards, I imagine these guns will do better overall.
Looking for a new spring rifle, going with RWS German guns have not failed me in the past.
I like to do long range shooting, 100+ yards.
Which one of these guns will perform the best? I hear the 54 has the best accuracy out of them all with its hefty price.
350 is only about 10% more powerful. 460 seems nice. 52 and 54 seem to be winners in the accuracy dept.
Input?
Thanks,
-Matt
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There is a sling stud that will fit the front bolt on the 54 well…. I cant quite recall exactly where to get one though…. I would imagine any airgun store should have them.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Bipod_SWAT_Combat_Profile_Adjustable_Height_Steel_Feet/2777
That mounted with a tril rail on the barrel like my Elite.
Be careful about doing a barrel mount with the 48/52 or 54. That is not a barrel, but a barrel shroud you see… the barrel is inside.
Sure, there are folks who mount bipods on springers…and companies sell such items because folks will buy them….. but if you are wanting to extract the most accuracy out of your springer, you wont do it with a bipod attached. …. the 54 is different though….
Not trying to piss in your corn flakes on any of this…. just my advice.
Where would you recommend placing a bipod on the 54? Barrel mount, or install a stud under the rifle?
I have a neighbor that works on oil drilling rigs offshore and when he is home for a month at a time we squirrel hunt together.
He has a 52 in .22 caliber and that Man is absolutely deadly with that thing ! Said he has never had it worked on and it has about 5000 shots thru it over the years and is over 8 years old.
Except for the weight I was really impressed with it .. might make a nice deck gun for me … not that I need to save on air 😆
Springers are fun for a change I think.
When he saw my PCP’s and CF bottle and Bauer compressor for the first time you should’ve seen his eyes 😀
He started shooting my .25 caliber compact and didn’t quit that day until he nearly ran me out of Kodiaks .. he was a little impressed 😆
i agree with rob he is da man.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Bipod_SWAT_Combat_Profile_Adjustable_Height_Steel_Feet/2777
That mounted with a tril rail on the barrel like my Elite.
Be careful about doing a barrel mount with the 48/52 or 54. That is not a barrel, but a barrel shroud you see… the barrel is inside.
Sure, there are folks who mount bipods on springers…and companies sell such items because folks will buy them….. but if you are wanting to extract the most accuracy out of your springer, you wont do it with a bipod attached. …. the 54 is different though….
Not trying to piss in your corn flakes on any of this…. just my advice.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/a/UTG_Bipod_SWAT_Combat_Profile_Adjustable_Height_Steel_Feet/2777
That mounted with a tril rail on the barrel like my Elite.
If you are looking for real accuracy out of a springer, forget the bipod…. bipods work well on the 54 due to the sliding block recoil absorption, but on a 48/52, you are really going to have some issue… you can get around some of it by having the bottom of the bipod as slippery as possible… the idea is to allow it to recoil backward naturally…. depending on your shooting surface, you may want to replace the rubber bumpers with something a bit less ‘sticky’ …
I have extensive trigger time with the 34, 350, 48/52, and the 54.
I have some time with the 460 and I have to say I just didnt like it.
The 350 is nice, but it has a steep learning curve to it and it quite long but nicely balanced…. I did a short write up on it some time back somewhere.
The 34 is the all round gun. A little shy on power, but a nice all purpose gun.
The 48/52…. if you are used to shooting big springers, you’ll be able to produce sub one inch groups at 50 yards with these. They are hammer guns and are well built.
The 54 is a tank. EASY to shoot accurately. Here is a quick write up I did on it some time back…
http://www.network54.com/Forum/534641/message/1166053447/RWS+54+Review
I will most likely get a 52, throw a bipod on it get UTG’s new mount for it, and a new scope, hmm Hawke Sidewinder? 🙂 The scope will have to wait, need some extra funds to fall back on, especially with the holidays coming up so I’ll get this thing in a couple months.
Now we are talking a quality gun rather than Gamo…
I have extensive trigger time with the 34, 350, 48/52, and the 54.
I have some time with the 460 and I have to say I just didnt like it.
The 350 is nice, but it has a steep learning curve to it and it quite long but nicely balanced…. I did a short write up on it some time back somewhere.
The 34 is the all round gun. A little shy on power, but a nice all purpose gun.
The 48/52…. if you are used to shooting big springers, you’ll be able to produce sub one inch groups at 50 yards with these. They are hammer guns and are well built.
The 54 is a tank. EASY to shoot accurately. Here is a quick write up I did on it some time back…
http://www.network54.com/Forum/534641/message/1166053447/RWS+54+Review
http://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2006/11/rws-diana-54-part-3.html
Tom has a nice writeup.
That said, it weighs a ton (but that doesn’t matter if you are long range bench shooting). I’ve never shot it at 100 yard targets but I would guess it would do as well as or better than a lot of guns in that power range.
Is it picky and hold sensitive on the bench or does it just punch them in there ??? TIA 😀
From what I have read, no it is not hold sensitive! That’s a plus.
That said, it weighs a ton (but that doesn’t matter if you are long range bench shooting). I’ve never shot it at 100 yard targets but I would guess it would do as well as or better than a lot of guns in that power range.
Jerry ! Just the Man I want to hear from … have you shot that 54 from the bench say over sandbags or a rifle rest ??
Is it picky and hold sensitive on the bench or does it just punch them in there ??? TIA 😀
If I were to get started, I’d go with a RWS54. They are really freakishly accurate guns. The sportsman’s warehouse in Bozeman, Mt. has one that I was interested in and because of some scratches in the stock I haggled it down to $375 (With scope). But I decided against it in the end. They still have it if you’re interested……Could be a good buy if you buff out the scratches.
I know it’s more powerful than my elite, compared to the 54 it’s about 10% more powerful.
For the great accuracy from a spring rifle, I’ll most likely go for the 52 or 54.
Thank you all for your input.
-Matt
The RWS 48 can do what the 54 does as far as accuracy—dime sized groups at 20 yards…—heavy with big crisp recoil…
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That said, it weighs a ton (but that doesn’t matter if you are long range bench shooting). I’ve never shot it at 100 yard targets but I would guess it would do as well as or better than a lot of guns in that power range.
Jerry ! Just the Man I want to hear from … have you shot that 54 from the bench say over sandbags or a rifle rest ??
Is it picky and hold sensitive on the bench or does it just punch them in there ??? TIA 😀
Pulaskias,
The 54 is not hold sensitive at all. That’s the whole beauty of the sliding rail system. Let’s face it, no springer is going to generate recoil that is objectionable except to the most tender girl child (or cheap scope) you ever met! The recoil “absorbing” rail system just prevents the recoil from spoiling the shot. I’m sure there are great shots out there that can hit a dime from a hundred yards with any springer but for mere mortals, the 54 sliding rail system makes good shots pretty easy. The 54 is perfect for bench shooting or shooting from any firm rest. All the hold advice you’ve ever heard is made OBE by the sliding rail.
DeutschKSK,
I advise you to pay close attention to Rob’s advice. If you want to shoot long range with a springer, you ought to consider that you are starting with a big dis-advantage with big parts moving violently inside the gun and generating recoil in two directions. The 54 compensates for this and might fit your needs. Really, for 100 yard shooting…I suggest a pcp and higher power if the law allows.