Can I tune my condor with out a Chrony?
Just as the title says is it possible? If i wanted to shoot a pellet at say around 850 to 900 fps ? how would i go about that ? plug it in to chair gun? and zero my gun at 30 yards then procedd to go out to say 75 yards could i calculate how fast my pellet was by the amount of drop i see on that target?
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Although, you may start becoming obsessed with chasing the ultimate power, or consistency, or efficiency.. Lol
If you have a tinkerer personality, you could have a deviation of 2fps and still keep thinking, “I bet I can get that down to 1fps..” :whistle:
Uhoh im in trouble i have that tinker mind set
Spend the money, get a chrony. You’ll never know your velocity/consistency/sweet spot without one. The day I got my chrony I felt like the blind man who was granted vision- I was blind and now I See!
Although, you may start becoming obsessed with chasing the ultimate power, or consistency, or efficiency.. Lol
If you have a tinkerer personality, you could have a deviation of 2fps and still keep thinking, “I bet I can get that down to 1fps..” :whistle:
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I have one also and was reluctant to try it on my 25 cal, I only use it for the recommended 177 and 22 calibers.
That is cool to know you can use it for a 25 cal also !
Thanks Sharpshot86 !
~ GKU
Well not entirely sure yet havent looked to hard and funds are low but a buddy said he was getting one in a few weeks so i will ask him if i can come over sometime
I use a combros in my .25 mrod.
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Yes, a smart choice there BullsEye why suffer the frustration, when there is a technology with many uses that is offered now that is quit affordable. 
Which one are you planning to get ?
~ CHEERS ~ GKU
Hey sorry i didnt see these replys sooner. After shooting with my condor for the past few weeks i can see i cn mess around with the power wheel and yeild better accuracy results but in the end curiosity about what fps its shooting at and if my fps are consistant etc … I guess i need a chronograph lol thank for the replys!
No, I’m not that guy. I presently own three chronographs (Pact, Oehler, and CED), I’ve owned over a dozen in my time, and I’m anxiously awaiting the time when http://mylabradar.com/ will take my money.
BUT, I don’t think they’re strictly necessary, and peak accuracy depends most of all on actual results. Chrono testing is just a shortcut. My point is that, at the end of the day, it’s accuracy that we care about, not standard deviation or max velocity spread, or whatever – if the gun shot ‘holes in holes’ we wouldn’t care at all. So it’s not impossible to work without a chrono – it’s just more work.
You do make a valid point about extraneous factors, especially wind. I’ll be the last one to tell you that a chrono won’t help, but the question was “Can I tun my condor without a chrony” and I still think the answer is “yes”. It won’t be as easy, and it won’t be as fast, but you can get there without one.
GsT
Going out side to compare group size can be affected by other variable environmental factors like the wind changes, humidity, etc.
With a chrony at about 3′ away will not have this ill factor in your reading(s).
The chrony is a tool needed to aid the gunner as well in other ways to weed out the variable and get you on a one way track to success.
When checking accuracy I chrony and target shoot at the same time and make adjustments if needed.
For an advide air gunner you need one to see or trouble shoot your gun, tuning issues, bad regulator or tuning one, etc………
Like I said if you got the time and money to waste by all mean you can do what you like.
Need to have an accurate velocity to use ballistic software like Chairgun.
I didn’t know any one air gunner/tuner hobbyist that is into this sport that doesn’t own one ……… .. . .. yet.
Are you that one ?
It’s true if one gun that gives a better chrony spread then another gun, will not always mean that it’ll be more accurate than the other.
But everyone’s experiences is different by many factors. 😉
~ GKU
Extreme spread, standard deviation are just as important and to know.
To use other means is just a waste of pellets and your time.
Here is a good chrony for 177 and 22 cal I just bought one, it’s great for the price !
~ GKU
I disagree. You care about velocity, or relative velocity to meet the requirements of a game, or energy for hunting. Measuring extreme spread, SD, really aren’t critical – they are just indirect indicators of accuracy potential – that information can be determined by tuning for group size. It’s true, having a chronograph will get you there faster, but at the end of the day, all you really care about it velocity and accuracy. Those other metrics are all just ways to try to determine what’s going to be accurate with less work.
GsT
Ya don’t know yet if it can be used with a 25 cal would have to get back to you on that. Parts and or can be purchased direct http://www.chronoscopes.com/
I heard good things about this one http://ads.midwayusa.com/product/626107/caldwell-ballistic-precision-chronograph?cm_vc=ProductFinding
You can use your smart phone and an app to view and send stats.
Other than that the good old folding Chrony setup is either like or hated relationship. With it’s a la carte setup you can buy the components one at a time as you save up. I bought the new LED lamps (it glows red) and it made the sensor area larger so that’s better now no errors. Except of the one above it would be wise to protect the 2 sensors I used a 2×4 some use clear thick Lexan to see though. It’s Murphy’s law, just matter of time before you’ll shoot it’s lights out ! 😳 😀
ATB ~ GKU
Hmm good point on the extreme spread and standard deviation i guess ill need to save my pennies for a chronograph. The chronograph you linked would be nice but the. U can only use it for those two calibers
To get (guesstimate) just your speed is one thing, but you’ll be missing out on all the more important statistical information needed to see how consistent your gun is.
Extreme spread, standard deviation are just as important and to know.
To use other means is just a waste of pellets and your time.
Here is a good chrony for 177 and 22 cal I just bought one, it’s great for the price !
~ GKU
You could make a ballistic pendulum http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_pendulum . They can be pretty repeatable if you keep the friction out of the system (low – drag indicator, low friction axle).
GsT
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Yes get that Cobro chrony which is brilliant and great value otherwise you are wasting your time. The more the power goes up the harder it becomes to use other means to gauge it.