Co2 Valve Stem & Tophat question (search frustration…
I know this has been asked and answered but searching for tophat, valvestem or Co2 adapter on here is like searching for the word ‘the’. I kept getting 1000+ results 👿
Trying to get the Talon SS back in good working order (before I decide whether or not to keep it 😳 ). New internals should be here tomorrow (hammer and condor weight, full trigger group, o-rings, main spring) everything but the breech and actual trigger. Tore it all down tonight to start cleaning and thought I’d check the top hat. Grub screws must have been a little lose for a while on one of the tanks as the top hat will move in and out a little without turning. I was able to turn it in a little and resecure it. I have no problem ordering a replacement but heres my question…
What happens if I replace the stripped tophat and valvestem with one from one of my leaking CO2 adapters? I’m thinking not much as the hole in the tophat can’t the functional difference between a regular valve and a Condor valve.
Or am I wrong and this is going to lead to wasted/unusable air and or mess up the valve internals somehow??
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The delrin valve seat on the older valves like the ones found on the co2 adapters are a one shot deal. when the stem comes out it usually won’t go back in tight enough to stay again.
If you want to just order a new delrin seat I have a stem with top hat that you can have. Just pm me your address.
Tag,
That’s the one…
I thought I could pull these from the front without taking the valve apart. I didn’t get that far in my search but I know I’ve had the Co2 valve stem walk out on me.
Yea taking a valve out from the front could be difficult….Although taking the whole valve off the bottle is difficult also…Either eay, looks like you need to take some stuff apart….
That’s the one…
I thought I could pull these from the front without taking the valve apart. I didn’t get that far in my search but I know I’ve had the Co2 valve stem walk out on me.
Is the tophat moving or is the tophat and valve stem moving? If the
tophat is moving without moving the stem then you will probably need to
replace the stem and tophat….Once you unscrew the valve from the
bottle you will be able to put the co2 adapter valve in its place no
problem…The co2 adapter valve is of the old design from what I hear but
it worked well on my regulated system. Also check the valve spring
retainer nut and make sure that it has not gotten loose..I wrapped the
thread with Teflon tape so that it is a tight fit when you screw it back
in..It prevents it from backing out…
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If you want to just order a new delrin seat I have a stem with top hat that you can have. Just pm me your address.
Tag,
I appreciate that but I can test with my other bottle.
I really am doing all this to get rid of the obvious flaws so I can decide if I want to keep it or not. (rifle has over 15000 rounds through it so I expect to fix some worn parts) I’ve got a 12″ barreled Talon frame on Co2 that I love shooting at closer ranges but when I point the SS on HPA or Co2 out to 30yds it’s fine for plinking, it’s dissapointing on targets/groups. Longer ranges – well… I just gave up. I’m thinking of going with something different. I’m waiting until after the edgun gets here to make that call though.
All the stuff I just ordered was like $35. AF will rebuild the CO2 adapters for about that same amount so I fiqure the valves would be about the same. If I decide to keep it I’ll just send a box full of stuff to fix back to AF.