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CO2 vs HPA tanks

Am I correct in saying that I can fill a hpa tank with CO2 but not a CO2 tank with 160bar hpa?
I bought a Talon type rifle in South Africa, second hand but the tank on it looks like a CO2 tank. The previous owner advised me to fill the tank only up to 160bar as the sweetspot starts there.
There is a lot of mixed opinions on local airrifle forums about the CO2 tanks and hpa usage in them.

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From what I understand only 5 rifles (branded as Puma) were imported to be tested by African Outdoor Sports, a local supplier. They also sell the Buffalo River range in New Zealand and Australia. A big distributor of hunting accessories.
Well, I bought the rifle from a friend who were testing it for the company. They didn’t import any rifles besides the original 5, Stealth and Airforce were then available on our market although at a very high price.
I stripped the rifle yesterday, barrel etc. It’s is a copy as you say since its working on the same principle as the Talon, frame-riding hammer etc.
The biggest difference are the coupling where the tank screws onto the frame, I can basically remove the tank while it is still connected to the tophat section.
I checked the writing on the tank and the bottle is clearly designed for CO2, the test pressure only goes to 190bar 😯
I’m now looking for a safer tank, a real hpa tank. I will have to screw the CO2 pin-valve directly on the new tank due to the current design.
Thank you for the advice so far.
ps, I shot it at 35meters and the accuracy was perfect with the current barrel but hope to fit a smaller/shorter barrel in the future

I agree…not AF gun. Not same setup as us AF guys have.

Interesting tank/valve design though.

My tank has on it DOT3/3000
If yours is the same, then I would say go for it.

Kinda a cool setup..Hpa or Co2, I have never seen that before.

U do realize that you will only get 40-60 shots hpa, while you get a few hundred co2.
Maybe you access to HPA and not Co2.

Interesting, I learned something new today.
Thanks for posting.

what kinda gun is that?

That is a copy of a Airforce gun. Read the tank and it will say around the neck what the tank is rated for.

I bought the rifle with the 12oz CO2 as a combo but like stated above, I was advised that the sweetspot is around 160bar on hpa. Speed is around 850fps for a good 40 shots, pellets are 5.5mm/.22 JSB 16grainers
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(There is a lot of mixed opinions on local airrifle forums about the CO2 tanks and hpa usage in them.)

1) No you should not use a Co2 tank with HPA
2) No you should not use a HPA tank with Co2

Co2 tanks are full of liquid Co2 at some lower pressure. The Co2 liquid/vapor expands 100 fold when the valve opens and it hits air.

Co2 tanks are not strong enough to hold 3000psi. They only are designed to make about 800-900psi…

3000psi in a 800psi tank…Bad idea !!

Besideds the valve system is not the same in HPA and Co2, I doubt any informed shop would fill them.

show us a pic of what u got

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