Condor accuracy problem
I just got a used Condor in .22 the other day. It has 24″ barrel. I set it over the chrony, and tuned it shooting 21.1 Kods at about 990 fps. I set a up a target at about 25 yards to see what accuracy I was getting. I was getting maybe 3/4″ groups. I tried JSB’s also. About 1″. So I turned it down some and tried again. Same results. Turned it down even more more(about 3-4 on the power wheel) and no change in groups. I have had Condors before(22 and 25) in the past, and at 25 yards, I was almost stacking them. Could any one help please. lead me in the right direction.
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i use graphite based sprays, leaves nice and slick, no dust collection
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Albert have you ruled out the scope or mounts? Its actually rare to have a condor shoot this bad if none of the things we mentioned were the problem.
Youve already proven its not you. 😉
I don’t mean like wd 40, or car oil, 😉
i use graphite based sprays, leaves nice and slick, no dust collection
ok and keep shooting until your air pressure drops on down your velocities will keep getting lower and you can monitor your groups at lower velocities, the gun may still need some breaking in and may not be wanting to shoot at the higher velocities .
Out of curiosity, have you tried groups at say, 50 yards? I know it sounds crazy but the pellets could be wobbling at early velocities and not stabilized into a spiral yet.
I had a similar incident with a .25 Condor and Benji domes. Groups were more open at 50 yards than they were at 75. I slowed the pellets way down and groups shrank. I know this is totally different physics and I can’t explain it but that was my experience.
As for using Kodiaks… I’ve tried several different models of the .22 pellet. None of my rifles were stellar with them regardless of speed.
The JSB 18.1 works the best in all of my .22 rifles. My SS is 700fps all the way up to my .22 Condor 24” at 950fps.
I hope this helps.
Thanks for the responses. Here is what I got. I did have a grub screw loose on the bushing. I have no LDC or shroud, so its not clipping. I shot it over chrony, 2500 psi fill, power wheel was about 8. I shot from about 950 up to 999 back down to 949 in about 20 shots using 21.1 gr Kods. Tophat is tight. I put a Kleenex over the breech. No air escaping. Also I had cleaned the barrel, and shot many shots through before trying accuracy.Could the crown be messed up?
Note: Also I shot my friends .25 M-rod off the same rest and distance to make sure the accuracy problem wasnt me. I stacked them at 25 yrds.
Hi Albert,
I think I sold you my Career 300 a few years back. What an accurate gun.
Any way check this out
Sorry powderburner I disagree. Do not oil the inside of the frame unless you plan on disassembly and wiping it out weekly.
Oil attracts dust, which creates grit, which creates hammer chatter.
Clean the frame, leave it clean.
clean the barrel and oil everything up nicely, oil inside the frame where the hammer slides, the tophat, the barrel after cleaning. i would say your running a little fast but i have found that Kodiak’s don’t shoot bad in my 22 at high 900’s ,
but i bet you will find that it will tighten up if you slow it down with both those pellets. 🙂
Several things to look for. This is what I would try.
Chrony the gun to check for consistency. Just to be certain you do not have a big deviation in velocities.
If its shrouded, try without to see if your clipping. (probably not or your groups would be much worse)
Once you have the shroud off, push a Q-tip into the end of the barrel and pull it back out to check for burrs. If the q-tip snags the crown needs redone.
Push a pellet thru the barrel to check for tight spots. Might need a good cleaning.
Lay a sheet of toilet paper over the breech, fire rifle. If paper blows off, lube the breech o-rings with silicone grease. This is overlooked by many and its critical for consistent start pressure.
Check parallax, Im sure you know how to do this.
Square test the scope. Move crosshairs 2″ up and to right, fire 3 shots.
Move 4 inches down, fire 3 shots. 4″ left repeat, 4″ up repeat. Your groups should be creating a roughly 4″ square. If not your scope or possibly mounts could be bad.
Check if tophat is loose on stem.
Check to see if breech “clicks” over the oring when you seat it on the tophat. It must remain tight to tophat.
Next item requires a bit of disassembly.
Check barrel bushings, be sure they are snug to barrel.
Tighten bushings bottom screws nice and tight, side screws just enough to keep them from falling out.
THats the easy stuff to check.
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try a 2100psi fill and power wheel on zero .whats your your tophat set at ? i fill mine to 1600 psi with extreme valve and i get 950s with 18.1 jsb,not a lot of shots but crazy accurate for like 15 shots.so try lower fill pressures