Daisy Grizzly power mod
I have a Daisy Grizzly tha I bought for my kid several years ago that doesn’t have much power. It chronographs at around 350 fps as advertised, but that is way under powered. Is there a way of modifying this BB gun generate more power?
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I have a little daisy 853 that I love to shoot. I still shoot it actually. I went from my red ryder thing to it, and I remember being a sniper with it. None of my friends could hit anything with their red ryder guns, but I’d pull this out and pop birds off trees all day. I shoot it indoors now, that and my izh-651k are the only guns I have weak enough for the pellet trap. I haven’t chronied it in a while, but I seem to remember the velocity being around 600fps with an average .177 pellet. I also learned how the pumpers work off that gun, easy to take apart and put back together.
I’ve haven’t seen one of sale anywhere, don’t know if they make them anymore. But I do love the gun.
And rob is right about the whole single shot thing, when it takes a solid minute to get the next round ready to go, you learn to make that shot count.
The 397 would be awesome. Only thing I’d worry about is I don’t know how much effort it takes to pump it up all the way, but if it’s a lot and small kid, could be an issue.
How old is your kid?
Those are good observations. When I was a kid, one of my friends friends had a C9 that he wouldn’t let me shoot…I still remember that. That was a sexy rifle. I had manuevered my way into a 760 a few years later. The 760 was after a Daisy model 105 and then a model 25. The 760 seemed like raw power 😆 All of these years later, my 392 is still one of my favorite air rifles. It is loud and not as powerful as a PCP, but it works every time and it has a beautiful walnut stock.
My 11…gonna be 12 in December son is spoiled by any standard in the air gun discussion. He has a Red Ryder, 760, 2250, and he gets to shoot whatever I am shooting. So he enjoys my TSS, and likes my friends AA S410 ERB.
I am thinking about what to get him for his birthday. The 392, (I like .22 and when he is older he’ll appreciate a .22). There is also the 850 Air Magnum.
Right of passage? Are things the same now as they were then? What is the right of passage for 2008? Maybe that’s what’s confusing me; the greater choice and technological advances vs. time honored tradition.
As always Rob, thank you. 😀
Llama what do you think?
You know, honestly, I think for a younger shooter, the 397 is tops… reasons why….
1. It’s a pumper. This will instill a one shot/one kill mentality in a younger persons mind…. a little bit of work to get a shot off isnt a bad thing.
2. tough as nails. Should he try to pump it up a gazillion times, it’s only going to dump so many pumps. Juice not worth the squeeze…
3. The 397 (.177) will have enough juice for small game and be an economical plinker as well.
4. Open sights… everyone should know how to use and adjust them. Later on, can get a set of Air Venturi mounts to allow mounting of a scope.
5. Less ‘fiddly’ than PCP… just pump and shoot…..
6. It’s a right of passage….if the kid gets a Talon or even a Discovery pretty well right off the bat, whats next??? Have him earn his way up to a PCP… My opinion only here, but I’d say that many of us would have KILLED for a Benji growing up, never mind a PCP. Give the kid something to look forward to and work toward… maybe after a few years, reward his efforts with a Discovery…
Could even use the Grizzly as a platform for showing how an airgun works. Take it apart and try to mod it. Can be a good physics lesson in there….
hope this helps and thanks for the kind comments….
Hi Rob,
I knew that you would come through for me. I think that your right about it not being worth while but I just wanted to hear it from someone like you with lots of experience. My thought was to make it a little better training gun. As it is, it is a disappointment to even the least experienced shooter. The Red Ryders seem to have more power. I bought it because it looked cool and I figured that it would shoot at least as well as a Red Ryder…oh well, live and learn.
So what do you think Rob, a 392 or a Discovery? It seems like a Discovery could be a 2008 version of a life time friend just like a 392. Are they standing up ok?
Then I start to think that a TSS properly quieted would be the holy grail of air guns.
There is also the 850 Air Magnum…and the ist goes on, and on… 😀
Yes and no….
I’m only guessing here, but the Grizzly is based off an 840, yes? If so, the Daisy 840 is a single pump pneumatic. It may (MAY) be possible to get a little bit more velocity out of it by lightening the valve spring in it to allow it to dump 2-4 more pumps. There is always the possibility of angling the transfer port in the valve and polishing things up a bit….but…
I would suspect that the gains would be minimal even after such mods. My best advice would be to spend out the $40-50 to get a different gun. For a decent MSP airgun my recommendations are as follows…..
1. Crosman 760…. Good gun that can be modified. Velocity around 600fps in .177
2. Crosman 2100… a bit more velocity, around 700fps in .177. Still moddable, but a bit longer and possible awkward depending on the size of the user.
3. Daisy 880…. good accuracy, around 650fps in .177, but prone to breakage of plastic receiver. If you can find a 22SG or similar with the wood stock and the steel receiver, then you are golden!
…. of course, the holy grail far as a pumper for a kid would be a 392 or 397… would last a lifetime so long as the kid didnt mess with it…
hope this helps.
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Thanks Llama. Just like Rob, I knew that you would have some good advice.
Thanks guys!