Dear Hoot, Question.
I need to pick your brain on your Dot scope on your Mutant, You use it for close up and short range,
I come across some things at close range, A rabbit sitting in a bush, 10 feet, a Euro dove landing 15 feet in front of my shooting bench,
I thought a dot scope might be good , Maybe a laser would be better????
If the Dot scopes are a 400 dollar starting point , I am out , I spent my big money on my scopes and guns,
What does the ozz the all knowing all seeing Hoot have to say about the Dot V/S laser money thing?
Or as a true Texan would ask. Is the dang Dot thing as good as the red line light thing, ?
Mike
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I aint no Hoot, just some random newbie here.
That said,…
A laser may alert the animal that you are shooting, or it may not. Also, most lasers are not very visible or easy to find during the day in my experience. I have a contractor type range finder (digital measuring tape they call it) with a laser to shine on the object that is being measured. It is difficult during the day to find that dot.
A red dot is good because there is no eye relief and the 1x magnification makes it easy to track fast moving targets. However, even with a red dot, you still have to deal with the holdover in close range shooting unless you want to dedicate the red dot just for a particular range. 10 to 15 feet (3 to 5 yards) is a very close distance where holdover is not only significant, but also changes a lot depending on the distance.
This is, unless, you mount the laser fairly close to the barrel because at this distance, the pellet is traveling pretty straight with little drop.
I would consider a red dot that has something similar to mil-dots, and I know EOTech has one like that. That’s the $400+ red dot unless you can find a good quality clone. Some other red dots may have a dot and a circle reticle to help with the holdover. BTW, you can also add a magnifier (essentially a monocular) behind the red dot for longer range shooting.
Or, for that kind of money, get a Beeman P1 or a Hatsan spring/PCP pistol and use iron sights instead.
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Dear Mule-Hide….
Our friend sactargetshooter has good information!
A laser is a waste of time unless it is at least 100 millia-croutons! You can’t see squat in the daytime, unless they are strong enough to burn a hole in the animal you are aiming at.
A red dot scope can be had for $25 to $100, depending on what you want. Some of them have a half dozen, or more, reticles you can choose from and that is nice!
Ebay has an endless selection, and Pyramydair has some too. There is no magnification, but shooting up close, say 5 yards to 25 yards, there is very little pellet drop.
That’s it…only a very high powered green laser can be readily seen in broad daylight, but they are expensive and potentially dangerous to eyesight.
Get an inexpensive red dot, say $35-$50. You can buy a scope ring on Ebay that has a picatinny slot on top of it, that’s what I used to mount mine on top of the glass scope. While you are at it, pick up a couple 2032 button batteries, that’s what most of the red dots use.
Good luck….
Kindly ‘Ol Uncle Hoot: