DIY AF trigger fix vs. AFSuperSear
First is the DIY and I hope I’m understanding it right. I didn’t do it. Bought the gun used. Looks like some nice polishing of the trigger parts. Maybe also some material removed from the sear. I think the frame was drilled and a screw put in to make a “1st” stage. I say “1st” stage but considering once the guns cocked it’s locked in this position. Almost feels like a “1st – 2nd stage” adjustment because it should put the sear on the edge of breaking. The “2nd” stage screw is underneath drilled through a plate. So being adjustable you could put it even more on the razors edge of breaking. Now the adjustment screw did not come with my gun. I don’t know why it was removed and or lost. That said the trigger to me was heavy and harsh with no real 1st stage. To be fair the safety was in and I hate it. Might have caused me to hate the trigger. If I missed something, I’m sure you guys will let me know.
Second the AirForce SuperSear
No drilling. Maybe no polishing needed. I have all new trigger parts and the old DIY to play with now so I’ll find out what I like best. It’s a drop in, apart from adjusting the screws correctly and making sure taking off the safety doesn’t fire it, it can’t get much easier. I did install it. It took me longer than 10 minutes. I think the old mods and new part plus the shitty safety were being uncooperative. That said I got it all working and I’m an idiot most days. 🙂 Here’s what I found with it all working. A nice 1st stage that resets. A very nice 2nd stage that I think can be set better than I did, but ten times better than what I was working with. I wish I had better photos for you, but there it is. I also think I’ll put the gun back together at least once without the safety to see how it is and if I like it.
All in all very very pleased with the drop in unit. I’m not much, if at all a DIY guy, and I’d have never drilled a frame on my own. 😀
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The trigger pull consists of three stages:
1. takeup or pretravel; which is the movement of the trigger which happens before the sear moves
2. break; the movement during which the trigger moves the sear to the point of release
3. overtravel; which is the distance a trigger moves after the sear releases
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I believe what is designed there is really just an adjustable 2nd stage… You could remove (or over extend) one of those screws and not really change much. In fact you could cut off the whole extension part and still get an adjustable 2nd stage pull.
Since the trigger bar rotates both screws act on the middle sear, one has more action than the other due to the distance from center of pin in the trigger.
Both stages act on and move the sear… Or am I missing something?
I thought the 1st stage moved the sear to the edge of breaking, and the 2nd stage pushed it over the edge. I know of no other way to get the short crisp break instead of creep.
I always thought the first stage was movement prior to actually moving the sear?
Both stages act on and move the sear… Or am I missing something?
Anyway to get a photo with the middle sear engaged in the hammer sear and the “super” sear in it’s prefire position?
I had to take your image and flip it to get a good idea of what was happening, for some reason when it’s upside down I have issues. 😕 😯
It’s difficult to get them in position because of the one piece that holds the cocked hammer back. If I had a cutaway gun it would be easier. You may not “see” the two stages, but they are there. Going to shave some of the top part of the trigger to get a longer 1st stage. Sorry it’s upsidedown.
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I’ve looked at the photo a few times and i’m still not seeing the true two stages…
Anyway to get a photo with the middle sear engaged in the hammer sear and the “super” sear in it’s prefire position?
I had to take your image and flip it to get a good idea of what was happening, for some reason when it’s upside down I have issues. 😕 😯
i suppose if youre somewhat mechanically deficient, like many of us are, this seems like a good idea.
however, these guns are more suited to those that are.
glad its workin for ya, just hope that it dont malfunction or break, given the source…
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The trigger pull consists of three stages:
1. takeup or pretravel; which is the movement of the trigger which happens before the sear moves
2. break; the movement during which the trigger moves the sear to the point of release
3. overtravel; which is the distance a trigger moves after the sear releases
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3 stages?…
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