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Ed Is Listening

Hell ya, Daddy! It’s here! :8: All you “Edgunners” have been in my shoes…the packages arrive, the grin ensues and the fun begins. I’m compelled to give a brief update/report, for this awesome gun, as per my observations. There is a lot of dated and misleading info out there, which has raised a lot of questions/concerns. I will attempt to dispel these, for those unaware of Ed’s hard work and the latest design advances.

Received-Matador R3M .25 long, scope mounted, cleaned the “pipe” and 380 shots through the tube. Here’s a brief rundown and report of my definitive findings, so far:

1) The breech block is now marked appropriately as 6.35 mm/.25 cal. and with the new
generation aluminum design, it has a finish which is a consistent match to all external
components. (no apparent mismatch of finish, per earlier versions)
2) Concern for a “loose” or warping stock is unfounded…it’s anchored fore and aft, as
secure as any of my magnum powder burners.
3) Concern for friction, developed by actuating the magazine advance component, is non-
existent-the bolt guide pin is configured w/ a roller and is well lubed.
4) Trigger pull & creep as received…I wouldn’t change a thing. (well I lie…I know I
will dink with it and end up putting it back as it is now). Better than my Marauder,
which has extensive adjustment & modification, and as crisp as my varminting/bench
guns.
5) Bolt cycling is heavy, due to the geometry of components, but is smooth. (grinding, sticky,
rough…uuh, I don’t think so) There’s more resistance produced by pushing the pellet
into the breech, than pulling back the bolt. Upon inspection, I note the bolt guide
pin and hammer face contact area, are well polished and mildly chamfered to reduce
friction at this critical bearing point.
6) The forward pitch, incorporated into the scope rail, works perfectly for the Hawke
Sidewinder 6-24x…this feature bought an estm.120 clicks without any overrun of the
reticule or stress to internal components.
7) The ease, for hammer spring adjustment, has been provided for by a threaded, finger adj.
sleeve and associated lock ring. No need for allen wrenches and pliers, anymore.
(A light cinch w/ pliers of the lock ring is advised…it can back off when finger tight)
8) My concern for a bullpup configured rifle, shouldered by a lefty, are now somewhat
supported. The bolt itself is OK, but because of the projection of the magazine and
the short reach from the butt to cheek position, there is a conflict. In my case, this
can be remedied by addition of shims or adjustable butt plate, to increase reach.
9) Received gun w/ 120 bar setting on the regulator-achieving 70 shots w/ ES of 23 for
940 fps velocity…usage from 220 bar to 110 bar, with less than 1/4″ drop. Bench, 5
shot group average of .68″ @ 50 yds, during seasoning and break in. I believe this
will reduce to sub .5″ after tuning to a lower velocity and settling in.
10) I made note that the sweet spot, for accuracy, seems to be trending at around 910 fps
with a yield of .52″ average, 5 shot groups, currently. At this tuned velocity, I was able
to glean 75 shots per fill.
11) Maybe the best surprise of all is, the long wait for receipt, post payment, has
apparently been alleviated. Mine was in hand within 5 business days, with all
additional maintenance/repair parts and extras, such as 2nd probe, extra o rings
and valve stem, as requested.
12) I purchased a second probe for 2 reasons. First, to have a replacement when, not if,
I misplace the original. Second, to utilized as a dust plug for the fill port. I just put a
rubber cap on the threaded end and viola, dust cap, for just a bit over the price of the
after market fare, with the added benefit of a backup probe.
13) The scope rail magazine retainer seems to only accommodate (3) .25 mags, rather than the
intended (4). With the (2) include mags I can see, when in place, they offset one another
slightly, requiring a small portion of the space required for the 4th one. I will report when
I receive the backordered mags.
14) Oh ya, the report is on a par with the Marauder .25 for actual db. The Matador is sharper
and more mechanical but no louder, on a down range tangent @ similar velocities.

Hope this info sets the record straight. My goal is to give this current info in as comprehensive fashion as possible, based on fact and my own findings. I probably missed an item or
two, but this dwells on the higher profile queries. I’m sure this will also become dated as Ed continues to improve this fine product. Cheers, Steve :wave:

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quote huntjunky:

… as I am a lefty like Ed. (All the best people are) 😆 …

Ah I see …….

Somebody in the past would have immediately said “a new Edclub member” 😀

ATB

is thread is great for anyone sitting on the fence about the R3M.
thanks all
darryl
PS Pippo, thanks for your updated opinion too.

quote darryl:

Steve,
thanks for the video link. Mighty fine shooting there, and a few less pigeons to “dot” the landscape. Did I say that? :whistle: How do you find the bolt-cocking sequence when hunting. Say, for example, you prepare to take another shot. Are you Losing your sight picture (through the scope) to cock the rifle. In the video, I assume you were shooting with the gun supported.
thank you again (for putting up with all my questions)
Darryl

Darryl, I do lose the sight picture when cocking, as I am a lefty like Ed. (All the best people are) 😆 I have to move my head away to access the bolt. Right handed, I would venture to say you would still lose your sight line anchor, as you cock the gun, because of the rearward position of the bolt inherent with all bullpups. The vid was shooting from a bipod and to clarify, was with my Marauder. It has a reversible bolt, for us lefties. Given that, in conjunction with the traditional stock, I don’t have to take my eye off the target when no scope cam is used. Cheers, Steve

Hi Darryl,

sorry but actually if the gun is now working flawlessly (as already reported by huntjunky and hopefully also by others) you won’t have anything to worry about.

Apparently the problems (recognized and not) could now be related only to former gen versions.

ATB

Pippo, you make me want to do drugs. I’ll see if I can get a prescription for Dammitall or Uppenatum. :whistle: :mrgreen:
Darryl

Well with a perfectly smooth working R3M I’m wondering if there will be a sales action also in europe 😀

But I have to say honestly that my gen-2 R3M experience mirrors more that of Ig720 so I’m wondering if there is already a gen-3 version out there. 😯

Honestly ED should have given a bit more of information concerning his progresses on fixing the R3M issues instead of continuing to say there is no problem just should 3000K pellets out of it, this would have avoided a lot of negative comments of people having serious issues and not getting any help to solve them (IMHO).

OK gen-2, gen-3 or gen-4, it doesn’t matter if other people will report the same positive feedbacks on the current models as huntjunky.

Hopefully ED will also help the owners of the former gen versions to sort out their problems (if they have).

ATB

Steve,
thanks for the video link. Mighty fine shooting there, and a few less pigeons to “dot” the landscape. Did I say that? :whistle: How do you find the bolt-cocking sequence when hunting. Say, for example, you prepare to take another shot. Are you Losing your sight picture (through the scope) to cock the rifle. In the video, I assume you were shooting with the gun supported.
thank you again (for putting up with all my questions)
Darryl

quote huntjunky:

quote darryl:

thank you huntjunky,
this current review of yours brings the gen2 R3M into sharper focus. it will be a very much appreciated read for those interested in buying The Edgun. Nicely done.
Darryl
PS please keep us updated on your experiences. Do you intend to get some hunting done?

Hey Darryl, I went through another 190 pellets today and accuracy was dropping off. My intentions were to test for accuracy @ various velocities from 880 through 960 @ 10 fps intervals. Well, a thorough cleaning was in order and accuracy resumed but has not really improved. The only other thing to report is, I made a run @ 890 fps from 220 bar to 110 bar and got 84 shots with Kings (ES 25) out of this long version. Nothing definitive for most accurate velocity yet.

Did I intend to get some hunting done? Me? Uuh, does a duck fart under water? Answer’s yes to both…definitely. Here’s a little fun I had with the Marauder.

Take care, Steve

quote Kiba:

The .25 magazines not fitting under the rail is a known issue, I pointed it out a while back after finally receiving my spare .25 magazines. If you want the magazines to properly engage the grooves you can only put two under the rail and you have to leave an open space between them.

Yes sir…I saw your post before my purchase and thank you. Thought I would reiterate, for those who missed it “whilst on my soap box”. The very purpose, for this thread, is to update those specifics and I would note that, contrary to your gun, my new one will definitely fit 3 magazines under the rail, no problem. With (2) side by side, in any position, they will anchor but tend to force each other “outward” (1/64″). This leads me to believe that with (2) together and one at the other end, the remaining space may be too much of a “pinch”. We’ll see, my friend. Cheers, Steve

quote darryl:

thank you huntjunky,
this current review of yours brings the gen2 R3M into sharper focus. it will be a very much appreciated read for those interested in buying The Edgun. Nicely done.
Darryl
PS please keep us updated on your experiences. Do you intend to get some hunting done?

Hey Darryl, I went through another 190 pellets today and accuracy was dropping off. My intentions were to test for accuracy @ various velocities from 880 through 960 @ 10 fps intervals. Well, a thorough cleaning was in order and accuracy resumed but has not really improved. The only other thing to report is, I made a run @ 890 fps from 220 bar to 110 bar and got 84 shots with Kings (ES 25) out of this long version. Nothing definitive for most accurate velocity yet.

Did I get some hunting done? Me? Uuh, does a duck fart under water? Answer’s yes to both…definitely. Here’s a little fun I had with the Marauder

Take care, Steve

keyser, I thank you for your vote of confidence. 😀
darryl

Darryl give him time, he’ll get there :smilen:
My experience with the latest Edgun mirrors huntjunk’s. I don’t think his experience with the Edgun is abnormal. I love mine. The Edgun seems to get better and better the more I shoot her

Huntjunky, let us know when you achieve sub-MOA at 50 yards.
darryl

Damn sexy guns. It was an incredibly hard decision for me to choose between a Matador and Cricket. I chose the Cricket because of the side lever. Now owning the Cricket, I don’t regret it because the gun is phenomenally accurate with pretty much whatever I choose to shove down the pipe. BUT, had I felt the roughness of the Crickets side lever before making my decision.. I’d probably be the owner of a Matador instead and just as happy.

The .25 magazines not fitting under the rail is a known issue, I pointed it out a while back after finally receiving my spare .25 magazines. If you want the magazines to properly engage the grooves you can only put two under the rail and you have to leave an open space between them.

The 4 grooves were spaced with the the .22 magazines in mind as they are a bit smaller in diameter and all 4 will fit under the rail properly.

Hopefully Ed will come up with a solution for the .25s and either enlarge the cutout and widen the space between the grooves or simply add a 5th groove in the middle so .25 rifles can hold 3 magazines.

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