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Edgun w/holographic red dot

So this morning I try the Eotech holographic on the Edgun and was surprised with the result of the groups. My first group was 8 shots at 40y under a dime, 2 and 3 was 5 shots each. Cannot miss any birds at that distance.

Also if you push your pellets further in a little more, it’ll make your loading/cocking much less effort and smoother too.

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I am really interested in these two lenses. From the spec sheets:

Both are much shorter than the Hawke, at 19.5 inches. The NF is 11.5 and the LRHS 13.5. The Hawke weighs 27.5 ounces, the NF 20 and the LRHS 25. Both are compact, but not exactly lightweights. The LRHS is one third shorter but weighs the same.

Grasshopper has more questions about the two, if you have time:

Are the brightness levels comparable? Which one would be better trying to find a target in the trees?

Is there much difference in the overall quality of the glass between the NF and the LRHS?

Is there a point at which a scope is too short? Would this make it more difficult to acquire a target and hold steady at the higher magnification? This probably is tied to the length of my Edgun, which is standard length. This would be the big advantage of the Eotech, at 1x. Correct?

Given my interest in short-range shooting, which lens is better tuned for 20-40 yards? The LRHS is a long-range scope with amazing close focusing. But are the optics better at close range, or long range. In a camera lens, resolution typically falls off at closer range, depending on the configuration of the elements. Macro lenses are ideal for closer work. I wonder whether the 3×9’s optimal resolution is closer to 20-40 yards than the 3×12?

Either would be a significant step up optically, but how do they compare against each other? It’s more dough, on top of the price of the Hawke, so I want to get it right now that I better understand how I am shooting.

Sorry, I have no experience with Zeiss scopes. I’ve only read that their higher end offerings have great low light glass. However just looking at the reticle choices for the Terra immediately turns me off for airgun use. If you’re looking for a compact AND relatively light weight scope, you might have to downside in objective size. 50mm objective is great if you use it in low light conditions but if you don’t need it, considering 42-44mm. It might save you some weight.

I don’t know your budget but have you considered the Nightforce SHV 3-10×42? Again, it ain’t cheap but it’s a fairly compact and light weight scope with a nice MOA reticle. It’s SFP with side focus. Glass is fairly good but compared to a Hawke, it should be night and day. Parallax goes down to 25 yds. Not perfect but again, not bad either.


http://nightforceoptics.com/shv/3-10×42

If you got a couple hundred more to spend, consider the Bushnell LRHS 3-12×44. Good glass in it’s price range and has a lot of features plus a very nice reticle. It’s FFP with side focus. The elevation turret feels very good if you’re into dialing. At 3x, I can focus on a target at about 18 yds even though the parallax spec says 50 yds but that’s more at 12x.


http://bushnell.com/hunting/rifle-scopes/elite-tactical-hunter/lrhs-3-12x-44mm

Yikes. I guess that’s the other end of the cost spectrum. 🙂

Since I’ve got you on the phone, what would be the downside of a Zeiss Terra 3x 3-9x50mm Riflescope? “Adjustable” to four feet (focus not stated) and weighs a pound. It certainly would be clear in daylight, and the front objective is approaching the limit without raising the rail.

quote JohnSC:

Wish someone made a bright 3-10x with close focusing.

What you seek is a March scope. It will set you back a cool $2K.

You can be like this guy with a big fat smile on your face.

http://marchoptics.com/first-focal-plane

http://marchoptics.com/#/products/d10v24ti
http://marchoptics.com/#/products/d8v24fml
http://marchoptics.com/#/products/d24v42fml

Thanks, Fudd. As I read more about the Eotech, the holographic sight has no magnification. All of my shooting is 20 to 40 yards, and old eyes could us some magnification. I’m using a Hawke Sidewinder TAC 30 6.5-20X42 Mildot now, usually at 10x or less. Great scope, but heavy.

The XPS2-2 looks like it might be what I need, but I am concerned about the lack of magnification. Wish someone made a bright 3-10x with close focusing.

Apologies, xbangu, if I have drifted off topic. I guess I should do some homework first.

quote=”ElmerFudd”]The EOTech 556 that he has appears to be discontinued. I’m sure you can still find it from various retailers though.

http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights/model-556

If I was in the market for one, I’d get the EOTech XPS2-2. Smaller, lighter and has 2 dots.

http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights/model-xps2

If you do a lot of shooting under 50 yds, I think it’s a cool sight to have. If you venture beyond that and want a quality and compact optic, you’re better off spending your hard earned dollars and getting a quality compact scope.[/quote]

Here’s what mine it look like with the magnifier.

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or http://i1064.photobucket.com/albums/u371/xbangu/Mobile%20Uploads/20151016_135044.png_zpsbvbhnxcu.jpeg

The EOTech 556 that he has appears to be discontinued. I’m sure you can still find it from various retailers though.

http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights/model-556

If I was in the market for one, I’d get the EOTech XPS2-2. Smaller, lighter and has 2 dots.

http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights/model-xps2

If you do a lot of shooting under 50 yds, I think it’s a cool sight to have. If you venture beyond that and want a quality and compact optic, you’re better off spending your hard earned dollars and getting a quality compact scope.

Thanks. And would you buy this version again?

My Eotech model is 556 and I just added a FireField 7x magnifier (just got from Walmart for $40). 50y under quarter size all day!!! This combo saved me 10oz comparing to my Hawke Sidewinder TAC.

quote RIDETOEAT:

I have been shooting my 25 lelya with one but I really miss seeing the pellet holes in the targets… works good for 20 to 40 yard stuff otherwise.

It really isn’t designed for BR, that’s for sure.
But for Ratting, shooting pest birds at closer range (upto 50 meters) and occasional Black Ops in the mountains around Toad Suck it’s fun.

Which model Eotech?

quote RIDETOEAT:

I have been shooting my 25 lelya with one but I really miss seeing the pellet holes in the targets… works good for 20 to 40 yard stuff otherwise.

A good reality check. Not the same as aiming at a human-like steel torso at 200 yards (as I’ve seen in videos). These old eyes need a bit of help! :mrgreen:

I have been shooting my 25 lelya with one but I really miss seeing the pellet holes in the targets… works good for 20 to 40 yard stuff otherwise.

awww man! Something else to buy! 🙁

Reflex/Holographic sights are great fun on moving targets and Ratting.

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