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First Shot – R3M

I have been shooting my Matadors for years and I am still amazed how durable and reliable they are. I have finally gotten out of the habit of periodically shooting them just to fine tune sighting them in. So many time I have set up a fine tuning shoot only to quit after 3 shots because they are dead on. However, recently I have had several periods where I haven’t been able to shoot for several weeks and when I started to shoot I have noticed that on a few occasions that first shot is a little low. My guess is that this is caused by some needed lubrication on the washer stack o rings in the regulator. But thought I would share it here to see of others have noticed this and figured out what causes it. All suggestions are welcome.

EdGun

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Ah I see…

Weird dreaming in your inner circle.

Outing?

I do t know pippy, is it?

I always heard you enjoyed sword fighting with dudes but….

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Is that a selfie Leady? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Does Lelya have a different Valve stem than Matador?

We speak several years ago, I believe the shape was the same but the size was smaller….

Does Lelya have a different Valve stem than Matador?

If we are speaking about the first 1 or 2 shots not being 100% consistent after months of sitting then personally I wouldn’t care because anyway you are going to take a few shots to check the setup is still ok and we are not speaking about a self defense weapon.

Now if the regulated air chamber is already full and there is no micro loss of pressure then it could also be the valve being some kind of sticky otherwise probably it is related to the regulator as already said.

This said I would like to add another thought that probably has no relation but one thing I have noticed with certain firearms. It happens that when I shoot from a cold barrel my first shot is a bit high and then the following shots are a bit lower but we are speaking about mm and wouldn’t make any difference in a shooting situation.

Then I had a Lelya where the first shots were always way off, not after months but only after few hours and this problem could never be solved because of the extremly long waiting time of spare parts. I mean if it takes 12 months to have a new valve then any testing and tentative to repair is useless. Gun “sold” with no regrets (actually this was another contribution to the cause).

:2cents:

These top notch PCP don’t like to stand idea for very long, they love to be shot to living HELL repeatedly/continuously and always ask for more attention/punishment as soon as the shooter/owner has stop and has tried out ……….

~ Greg

I notice this on a lot of regulated guns, not just EDgun. There is a good series from Robert Lane about this phenomenon. I don’t know if it is going to make a difference but I have switched my piston O-rings to Viton 75 about 3 months ago. These are the rings under the most stress in my opinion. I don’t leave my guns without shooting but I have noticed my first shot is more consistent after filling from below the regulated pressure. So I have no empirical evidence to share that the Viton rings make a difference but I offer this solution in hopes that others will try them and report their findings.

Yes, I had the same problem before. Since I got my lelya, I haven’t touched my .22 for months. It was 915 Fps I shot it last time. After months, I picked up my .22 and the POI was about 1/2 MOA down. I checked velocity it’s 870 Fps and jump up and down. Then I replaced two o-rings on piston of regulator, all are back to 915 FPS now. ED suggests that a couple of shots a week. :2cents:

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