FRUSTRATED AS HELL
So I finally find some time to work on my damn rifle. I put on a new side cocker knob, new spring, hammer and some other stuff. I reassemble the piece of shit and now the damn thing is a bitch and half to try to cock not that it matters because the mother fucker wont stay cocked anyway!!!
Not sure how much money I have in this thing got to be well over 2 grand with all the assessories for a fricken paper weight!!!
With I could get this damn thing working!!!!
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Get yourself a metal threaded insert for the delrin bolt.
Search the forum a member here installed one and looks solid.
Thanks everyone for helping.
Adam the reason I got a new breech is that I am always worried I am going to rip the breech knob right out when cocking. It worked fine when I got it and now it seems like with the sidecocker it might one of myrid of problems.
Roach I read your suggestions and did take out the safety block. As for the springs I have always had them in the elongated cut out. I actually have two in that space.
I guess I will have to try the stock breech again if I still have it and drill it for the side cocker and pray the darn thing doesnt pull out. Where did everyone get the push in metal inserts for them? I ordered a new spring instead of the pogo spring provided with the selph valve so hopefully it will lessen the chances of the knob tearing up the breech.
Now all I need is some time to do this work. My job is crazy busy lately and I am working on a project for my 22 month old. So hopefully soon.
THANKS AGAIN EVERYONE!!!
SavageSam,
The trigger assemby is shown in the Quick Reference section under trigger components. On the 2nd page I believe it is, there is another tiltle dealing with the trigger.
There is a wealth of information there on how to do just about anything or any mod. I have been reading this forum for only a year, but most of what I know I got off that section.
Roachcreek
Somebody please, PLEASE point me to a post that has pics of the parts you are talking about. I hate being ignorant and want to learn the parts of this gun. LOL. I had a hard time installing one of Adams parts that should of been a piece of cake. That should let you know how far in the dark I am. Is there a thread that “Breaks it all down” with pics.?
As discussed before the slot in the breech the sear sits in sometimes needs to be made a little deeper or it will push the tip of the sear down preventing it from cocking.
Also if the trigger guard bolt is a little long it will prevent the gun from cocking. A little washer under the head will solve this quickly.
X2
Ali looks nice but delrin does the job much better.
Sounds like you have some great help here newbie, dont give up man.
I hate aluminum breeches. They gall something terrible and I believe are greatly inferior to delrin breeches
As discussed before the slot in the breech the sear sits in sometimes needs to be made a little deeper or it will push the tip of the sear down preventing it from cocking.
Also if the trigger guard bolt is a little long it will prevent the gun from cocking. A little washer under the head will solve this quickly.
Newbie,
I had identical problems that you have, and like you I was frustrated.
I wrote to you in the past about this, but so did a hundred other guys offering solutions to your problem.
I think my post got lost in the myrid of solutions offered to you.
First, your gun would not fire when cocked because you left the safety block in after remoing the safety rod. The block migrated to the safe postion and blocked the trigger. I wrote to you about that and you removed it and it worked for a while.
Now your problem is the sear does not engage the bolt, the tip of the sear does not have enough spring tension on it to move it into the hammer locking position.
If you look at the stickys on the reference page it shows the sear spring being in the little round cutout. Problem is on mine this does not work, and I have disassembled and assembled it again and again, it does not work in that position on my 3 rifles, yes, you read that right all three of my rifles have to have that spring in the obong slot, not in the round milled cutout.
Either that sticky is wrong or some guns have to have the spring moved forward to the oblong sear slot.
Again, that spring must be moved forward, towards the muzzle, about one half inch to the oblong slot, so that it bears against the very tip of your sear that goes up and engages the hammer.
I hope this solves your problem, they are wonderful guns, you should be enjoying it rather than getting pissed at it for not working, again and again and again……
Roachcreek
Maybe cos as a top cocker the pressure on the breech wasnt causing binding(classic ali breech prob) now its a side cocker it IS binding in that classic way. Of course doesnt explain the non firing etc….
Post up a pic of the breech area.
Pab it worked great with the al breech for a long time. Then it started to actually cock and not shoot like the damn safety was on that was removed. Then it started not cocking. When I get time I will really have to look into it and see if I can see what the damn hang up is.
Ali breech will be the prob newbie. if it was cocking good before then you did well. put a delrin one back in and you’ll be back on track again. i spent months and money trying to get my ali one to cock smooth…..
It used to cock just stopped one day. The hard cocking thing dont know what that is yet either. I have been close to tossing this thing in the neighbors field. That is one thing I know for sure!
IIRC you said something about using an aluminum breach?? If you are does it have a big enough relief cut out in the front of it to let your sear come back up when you cock the gun??? Just a thought…Greg
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Thanks R.C. What kind of velocity gain are being achieved from all these mods? At what costs to shot count?