Fun Talon experiement today…..
Today was our regular day at the range for ‘the usual suspects’, or at least some of us. My tank was getting right down to the end, the Dutchman having filled his 9 mm Career lots and lots of times. It had about 2200 psi.
So I charged up my ‘Wevo tank’ to 2200. This is a 13 cubic inch HPA tank with a built in regulator, in my case it puts out 850 psi as long as the fill is above 1000 psi or so. I then screwed it into my CO2 adapter (where normally a paint ball tank would go).
Velocity was the same as CO2, 575 fps with a 12 inch .22 barrel. Very consistent, 574 or 575 on the four or five shots I checked. I shot 40 or more shots before the pressure dropped to 1200. There might be 100 12 fpe shots per fill. Groups were tight, maybe an inch and a half under the groups shot with the normal HPA tank (750 fps, 20 fpe).
All this was done with the hammer preload set at 4 (where I usually shoot). The power on CO2 doesn’t change much, pretty much fixed at 12 fpe from about 2 on the dial up. For the time being I can’t check this on the regulated air setup as I broke the little screw and so can’t change the setting until the new parts get here……
Anyway, it looks very promising.
Doug Owen
All Replies
Viewing 4 replies - 1 through 4 (of 4 total)
Doug those tanks he’s selling, are they used to fill our tanks or in place of our tanks?
A google search on ‘wevo tank’ gets their link:
http://www.wevopaintball.com/3000psitanks.html
However, it looks like they don’t have the regulator part rigfht now, only tanks.
There are a lot of these around, the paintball guys use them as substitutes for CO2 tanks. “All the online PB places have them”. On the YF Classifieds there are two guys that regularly advertinse them. Including much higher output pressures (more powerful shots, but less). One of the YP guys with a fair following is:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/79574/thread/1207621965/13+%26amp%3B+22+cubic+in+HPA+Tanks+set+to+1200+psi+or+850+psi+output+3000psi+cap-+On+Sale%21
As far as ‘nitro cards’ for you shotshell loading project, it seems Ballistic Products doesn’t carry the 9mm size any longer:
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/products.asp?dept=118
Although your punch should be able to punch them out to the correct size. I have some 12 gauge ones around from my Black Powder Trap adventures, PM me your address and I’ll mail you some to try. You might get some good results with thin cork ones as well:
http://www.ballisticproducts.com/products.asp?dept=115.
The traditional home mead wads are cut from tagboard (like the boxes food products come in……check out your Fruit Loops box) Perhaps a bit better with a thin ‘hard card’ like you’d cut from index cards to back it up. Backing up the cork sheet wads ‘on the gas side’ might also be a good call, they are usuallly used that way.
The problem I think you’re having is partly because the styrofoam wads you’re cutting from drink cups are falling apart as soon as the gas hits them. The gas is then blowing up through the shot which slows the down and ‘blows the pattern’.
I’m not sure how many shots I’ll end up getting, but they are very consistent and there would seem to be a lot of them.
Doug Owen
Hey Doug,
Can you post the link to the wevo tank? With 100 shots per fill that may be a good alternative to co2 for me.
Roger
P.S.
Could you please PM me with a link to the plugs you think I should try for reloading my Crosman 1100 trapmaster shotshells?
Viewing 4 replies - 1 through 4 (of 4 total)
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
They are a substitute….sorta. You need the AF CO2 adapter to work with them. This and the regulator make the ‘total package’ about the same size as the factory HPA tank. This means the air tank part is shorter. It only holds about 200 cc, less than half the volume of the factory tank.
That is offset because the rig is now regulated. As I’m set up, I don’t have to stop shooting at 2000 psi and refill like I do with the normal tank. I can shoot down to about a thousand psi. My 66 cu ft 4500 psi tank fills either about as many times, but when the pressure drops under 3000 psi, partial fills mean more shots this way. In fact, 2000 psi will still give you ‘half fills’ on this scheme (still goes down to 1000 psi) when your tank would otherwise be ’empty’ and have to go in for recharge.
This is basically using the original Condor valve at a very low, but constant, pressure. It favors the low end of things, you’d have to go to higher pressures to get large ‘improvements’ in ME I should think at the serious expense of shot count. It’s shooting about 12 fpe with the 12 inch barrel, and if it tracks with CO2 I expect 20 with the 24 incher. Plenty for me for lots of stuff.
In exchange it offers consistent speed (within a few fps hopefully) over a very wide area of fill, a ‘gas gauge’ on the rig (tells you how many shots left), and a QD to refill on the gun and without further adapters. And it unscrews any time you want to change it out and go to normal HPA or CO2. To make it happen you need the tank/regulator and the CO2 adapter which together cost almost as much as another factory tank If, however, you’re like me and have this stuff from ‘other projects’ it’s a lot cheaper. In my case, I had both the parts and a tank that was down to 2200 psi…….
Doug Owen