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gunpower emptying bottle when shot

hello lads just wondering if my gun is emptying because i only have 130-140 in my divers bottle when firing the valve stays open ..but can stop it from emptying its self by just pushing the breech forward easy with my thumb.. its only about 10 foot pound so not alot of spring preload or anything it just seems to stick??

thanks

jonty

Talon/Talon SS

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depends on the top hat placement, main spring and hammer weight. i doubt you would have much trouble getting close to 30fpe with a 12inch barrel.

i can adjust mine from less then 9fpe right up to 40fpe with a 24inch barel just by truning the tophat

When this mod is done Brutus what would you estimate the FPS will rise from a stock valve? I am interested in doing this but want to know some bits of info first. Thanks

quote Voltar_1:

quote jonty bh:

all sorted now lads.. just a sticky valve.. knocked it out and put it back in sorted 😀 thanks
all

explain?

the valve / top hat had a bur on it i think and would not come out of the valve.. so i put a spanner round the stem and hit it softley it came out put it in easy all sorted no more leaks

quote jonty bh:

all sorted now lads.. just a sticky valve.. knocked it out and put it back in sorted 😀 thanks
all

explain?

all sorted now lads.. just a sticky valve.. knocked it out and put it back in sorted 😀 thanks
all

here you go – http://www.stealthresource.org/

or loads more info found here – http://talonairgun.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=14

there are bits on this site all over the place you just need to find them. there is another site which is helpfun but i cant remember what it is called. if i remember i will post it.

quote brutus:

if you want to up the power to 12FPE its not too hard.

1. empty your bottle

2. remove the valve – this is not easy

3. get a hexkey size 0.05 and put it over a lighter or kitchen hob until hot. insert it into one of the grub screws and leave it there until it cools. repeat this a few times for both grub screws. this should break down the locktite so you can remove the TH. this will allow for fine tuning later on.

4. remove the bolt from the rear of the valve. it has a really small hole in it. bore out this hole. not too much, maybe double the current size.

5. give this part a good clean and make sure there are no metal shaving anywhere.

6. put it all together and fill up your bottle.

7. YOU MUST ADJUST YOUR TH CORRECTLY TO STAY UNDER THE 12FPE LEVEL UNLESS YOU ARE A FAC HOLDER.

hope this helps.

the th is already off mate i noticed on my other bottle the very tiny hole thanks alot mate you have helpt alot

one more thing is there any threads of dismantling the new valve ?

thanks alot mate top man

jonty

if you want to up the power to 12FPE its not too hard.

1. empty your bottle

2. remove the valve – this is not easy

3. get a hexkey size 0.05 and put it over a lighter or kitchen hob until hot. insert it into one of the grub screws and leave it there until it cools. repeat this a few times for both grub screws. this should break down the locktite so you can remove the TH. this will allow for fine tuning later on.

4. remove the bolt from the rear of the valve. it has a really small hole in it. bore out this hole. not too much, maybe double the current size.

5. give this part a good clean and make sure there are no metal shaving anywhere.

6. put it all together and fill up your bottle.

7. YOU MUST ADJUST YOUR TH CORRECTLY TO STAY UNDER THE 12FPE LEVEL UNLESS YOU ARE A FAC HOLDER.

hope this helps.

quote brutus:

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If you have the new valve you will find that it is quite consistent at around 10.5FPE. it will stay like this even when loading up the valve spring preload even when adjusting the tophat.

maybe look at getting a hills pump or a higher pressure divers bottle to get the pressure up to the 2800 mark

got a divers bottle mate it just needs testing 🙁 is there any way i could adjust / modifie the valve so it will give 11.5 fpe ?

thanks

jonty

quote brutus:

before you go shopping for springs have you removed the valve before? if you have take it off and give all the parts a clean and check that everything moves freely.

If you have the new valve you will find that it is quite consistent at around 10.5FPE. it will stay like this even when loading up the valve spring preload even when adjusting the tophat.

If you need a new spring try and get one on line somewhere as they cost £5.00 from gun power uk.

maybe look at getting a hills pump or a higher pressure divers bottle to get the pressure up to the 2800 mark

thats why i can not get over 10 fpe out of it.. only taken the valve off never taken it apart thanks fo rthe info mate very helpful

before you go shopping for springs have you removed the valve before? if you have take it off and give all the parts a clean and check that everything moves freely.

If you have the new valve you will find that it is quite consistent at around 10.5FPE. it will stay like this even when loading up the valve spring preload even when adjusting the tophat.

If you need a new spring try and get one on line somewhere as they cost £5.00 from gun power uk.

maybe look at getting a hills pump or a higher pressure divers bottle to get the pressure up to the 2800 mark

quote brutus:

this happens when the fill pressure is too low or the spring on the valve is not loaded enough.

keep the pressure higher and all should be fine

bad news 🙁 is there a way i could get a heavyer valve spring? would that work ? thanks

jonty

this happens when the fill pressure is too low or the spring on the valve is not loaded enough.

keep the pressure higher and all should be fine

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