Hammer riding on barrel
I would be interested in a hammer that rode the barrel as a guide as opposed to using the frame as a guide. If your familiar with Leupys hammers, something along those lines. His website is here if your not familiar.
http://www.leupyscustomshop.co.uk/content/gallery.php?twg_album=hammers
–quote from his site– “Unlike the standard frame guided hammers provided by Gunpower, which rattle down the frame on their way to collide at varying angles with the breech slide, most of my hammers are barrel guided, which means they never touch the frame. This design gives precise alignment and presentation at the breech, controled to very fine limits by the barrel clearance, cleaner and more consistent trigger sear release, and is quieter in use because the hammer doesn’t rattle against the frame. These hammers glide completely unlubricated on the polished barrel, giving a very consistent hammer strike, and as an added bonus, have a much improved, superlative cocking feel.
Interesting idea, I’d be interested if ya made some.
BTW, your micropolisher needs a good kick in the arse!!
Be good to ask Leupy first.
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I think AT put his 2 cents in 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕 😕
SAW
Ah yes, the focus becomes clearer with reminders… It’s a pity you have to deal with the absurd levels of regulation that you do. Some day you and Paul will have to visit the states to shoot some 200-700+ FPE air rifles and try out your biggest, baddest valve without looking over your shoulder all the time!
Well, I suppose. Maybe. Originally I was trying to produce something that would be acceptable to all users, instead of the niche market I was really interested in. What I have now is a very simple legal power or full power choice, able to switch from one to the other in a couple of seconds. But relatively crude in an aesthetic sense.
Which is why I call it stupidly simple, rather than brilliant. I can’t describe it though, because the ‘wrong people’ would get the wrong idea and think it’s purpose was nefarious, rather than an option for those who have no licence for full-power domestically but have the means to shoot full-power abroad. I’m sure you get the picture. 😉 😆
I would never break the law, and any officer of the law who came upon me while shooting and confiscated my rifle for testing would find it well within the law. But I shoot only on private land, so that scenario isn’t likely.
What are you guys talking about with the lang/voltar thing? some one post up a link so I don’t feel so lost if ya would 😕
Shouldn’t that be “brilliantly simple?”
You make a few minor tweaks to Lang’s idea and call it your own??
Are you Chinese ?? 😆
None of those ideas panned out anyway. The one I’m using now was stupidly simpler and works perfectly.
Does Leupy have a patent on this hollow metal cylinder with an ID and OD smaller than that of the production item? It’s not a mechanical wonder. Seems like nonsense.
Ever heard of a gentlemans code of conduct? respect for anothers efforts and selfless sharing of info?
people whine about the Chinese reverse engineering and we tend to place ourselves above all that.
Walter….
I can only guess how many people have come up with the idea of having the hammer ride on the barrel, and I doubt if Leupy was the first. The only people who were stupid enough not to were Airforce. 😆
Voltar,
You make a few minor tweaks to Lang’s idea and call it your own??
Are you Chinese ?? 😆
Does Leupy have a patent on this hollow metal cylinder with an ID and OD smaller than that of the production item? It’s not a mechanical wonder. Seems like nonsense.
Ever heard of a gentlemans code of conduct? respect for anothers efforts and selfless sharing of info?
people whine about the Chinese reverse engineering and we tend to place ourselves above all that.
Walter….
Brad, rather than supplying stronger springs with the blodnob valves would it make sense to offer a bit heavier hammer instead? … that is, if a bit harder blow is required for those seeking ultimate power from the blodnob valves.
More spring tension also increases trigger pull weight, and that is not something I’d care to sacrifice on these guns if it can be avoided. The triggers aren’t the best as is.
http://www.leupyscustomshop.co.uk/content/gallery.php?twg_album=hammers
–quote from his site– “Unlike the standard frame guided hammers provided by Gunpower, which rattle down the frame on their way to collide at varying angles with the breech slide, most of my hammers are barrel guided, which means they never touch the frame. This design gives precise alignment and presentation at the breech, controled to very fine limits by the barrel clearance, cleaner and more consistent trigger sear release, and is quieter in use because the hammer doesn’t rattle against the frame. These hammers glide completely unlubricated on the polished barrel, giving a very consistent hammer strike, and as an added bonus, have a much improved, superlative cocking feel.
Interesting idea, I’d be interested if ya made some.
BTW, your micropolisher needs a good kick in the arse!!
Be good to ask Leupy first.
There is a lot of force against it on firing esp if the breech pressure stays high for any length of time as in choked flow…. small bores..
Another thought is an oring seal in deeper would remove the pressure that wants to spit out the sleeve….
All in all nicely made bits. I’m thinking to make me up a set or two Smile
Walter….
Be good to ask Lang first…. 🙄
Why would I need to ask Lang for permission to use my idea?
Brad is doing a commercial venture and so is in a different class of endeavor.
Walter…
It would be just as easy with the manual lathe, but my business partner loves to use the CNC lathe.
You could make a hundred by hand in the time it’d take to program the bloody CNC, it’s only a bit of frigging tube. 😆
I would be interested in a hammer that rode the barrel as a guide as opposed to using the frame as a guide. If your familiar with Leupys hammers, something along those lines. His website is here if your not familiar.
http://www.leupyscustomshop.co.uk/content/gallery.php?twg_album=hammers
–quote from his site– “Unlike the standard frame guided hammers provided by Gunpower, which rattle down the frame on their way to collide at varying angles with the breech slide, most of my hammers are barrel guided, which means they never touch the frame. This design gives precise alignment and presentation at the breech, controled to very fine limits by the barrel clearance, cleaner and more consistent trigger sear release, and is quieter in use because the hammer doesn’t rattle against the frame. These hammers glide completely unlubricated on the polished barrel, giving a very consistent hammer strike, and as an added bonus, have a much improved, superlative cocking feel.
Interesting idea, I’d be interested if ya made some.
BTW, your micropolisher needs a good kick in the arse!!
Be good to ask Leupy first.
There is a lot of force against it on firing esp if the breech pressure stays high for any length of time as in choked flow…. small bores..
Another thought is an oring seal in deeper would remove the pressure that wants to spit out the sleeve….
All in all nicely made bits. I’m thinking to make me up a set or two Smile
Walter….
Be good to ask Lang first…. 🙄
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Continuing the derailment…
I may be picturing this wrong, so correct me if I am please.
Anyway, if the hammer is smaller than the frame ID and is riding on the barrel, what is keeping it from tilting downward just before it impacts the breech?
The bearing surface would slide off the fat end of the barrel 1.5″ before it hit the breech. The smaller od of the hammer would allow it to tilt downward inside the frame, correct?
How much of a reduced OD of the hammer are we talking about?
Someone enlighten me. This sounds like a recipe for inconsistency.