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HandPumps Benjamin-vs-AF

Benjamin and AirForce pumps are essentially IDENTICAL.
May not be news to you hard core boys but I am new and want share this with the other newbies as I have not seen it. (did not really look :-))

They are EXACTLY the same internally. AF is bit cheaper but if you dont hold or prop that bottle while resting for cooling, it could tip over like mine did THE FIRST TIME I USED IT and break the adaptor piece clean IN HALF!!!!! I was so upset. I had just got it from PA that day- THAT HOUR! I had been waiting for days cause my Benjamin had been busted and I had no mean of shooting. Basically going crazy. It was like a comedy. I finished my first set and it seemed to be balancing on it’s own fairly well so I turned my back and stepped away to let it cool. BAM!!… you know that feeling you get when this kind of thing happens? …EVEN if it did fall, it should not have just broken! Man, that air came rushing out in an instant and I wont lie, I cried for a while. About two hours… Long story short, I pulled myself together and simply took the hose from the Benny and swapped it out and with a little trail and error, got it sealed… worked great.
Until something locked up in the valve after a few fills and I could not push the pump in. Locked! And the opposite was what the benjamin had! I could not pull the handle up!… &#%$#^#%!!! So now I am stuck with two pumps, one long, one short. neither functioning. More tears.
Finally, as they are the same, internally, I disassembled both and swapped and switched and re-assembled and did it again and again and I dont know what I did but I finally got one to work!! It ended up being a Benny base and an AF tube… that was a month or so ago.
Been using it ever since.

I tried to post a much less winded notice in the PA reviews as they kept bugging me, but it never showed up. I Guess bad opinions are okay but bad truths are out. So I thought you hand-pumpers might want to know. They tell you an AF with a benny pump and vise versa cant be done…

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PA sold my friend an AXSOR pump. What is, or who makes an AXSOR pump? Does it have the drypack feature? This pump arrived and can be sent back under their 30 day policy.

Thanks guys

I found the best price for the Hill Pump at http://www.pilkguns.com. The price may have gone up.

Mine was with the Drypac. Its worth it to have. I think some only have that metal looking granular filter on the inlet.

they did not say if it was a dry pac filter or not. it was at Sportsmans Warehouse.

I paid 270 for mine. I would say yes. Is that a drypack filter?

i just found a bsa handpump with filter for $220 is that a good price?

you are right about the extra cost, Walkon. I bought them both and the one I got working is probably failing in a matter of time. So Mr. Hill Pump is next for a grand total in pumps of… I dont wanna think about it. Could have bought another condor… Live and learn.

BSA handpump is the Hill pump and can be bought at Airguns of Arizona. Pomona Airguns sells the Hill as well as Straight sHOOTERS

Who sells the Hill Pump?

That is good to know and a lesson we all have to learn sometime. While those pumps initially do not cost as much as a Hill. Chances are it will cost more in the long run.

The Hill is built well and can be repaired by the owner.

The user satisfaction is much higher.

We hear horror stories of the other pumps and it just sucks guys have to eat it because the damn pump breaks and often the company will not cover it. So everybody who needs a pump just bite the bullet and save for the Hill. It will outlast several of the other pumps. 😀

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