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so guys how are the hawke optics holding up ? my last one didnt seem to be real clear and hard to focus the ao. any thoughts . im in the market for another scope . plan on spending around 150.00 to 200.00. looking for optics in the 4x16x44 ao. help ….. denny oh yea this is going in a talon in .25.

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Try a Mueller Tactical 4-16X. For $169 you can’t beat it.

hawke is nice. I have one on a rws 48 / vortek kit and it’s holding up fine so far. Dunno 750 shots maybe on it. Also have their crossbow scope and it’s sweet too!

I get tired of saying this and perhaps you guys get tired of hearing it.

Bottom line scope should be something like the Busnell 3200 Tactical 5×15/Leupold EFR 3×9/SWFA Sniper series of whatever power.

That means at least $300.00 IF you can swing it.

Notice none of them have a iluminated reticle, if you spend the same amount on a scope that does not have one, you get far better optics.

I dearly love my30 mm Leupold VXIII Long Range with the Hollands reticle I got used for $570.00, but I would never ever fucking pay the $1250.00 Hollands wants for it. The glass on my Bushy 3200 Tactical has more resolution in poor light, but the Hollands reticle is light years ahead of the Mildot or half mildot reticle. And the 106 minutes of adjustment is just simply tits on a air gun scope if you like shooting insane ranges.

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Roachcreek

I also have a Hawke scope and have been quite happy with it as well, although I am not a fan of the SR reticle, but the score is pretty clear and holds it’s settings. I thought I had a scope, issue and it turned out to be a clipping issue.

I have no experience with Hawke scopes. I’ve read a mixed bag of reviews that seem to me to be colored by what the reviewer had to compare them to. If the reviewer had nothing but recent Leapers…Hawkes a good buy, If the reviewer had a Schmidt and Bender, well…read no more!

All I can say is don’t try to buy a scope that does it all. Figure out where you need the best performance and buy the scope that fits your budget and does that one thing the best compared to other scopes that fit the budget. The fact is, with reasonably priced scopes come compromises, scopes that don’t cost a freaking fortion and claim to do it all compromise everything.

I’m no scope collector or optics expert but I’ve learned some costly lessons falling for ad hype. I’ve got a couple pretty expensive scopes (yes, you can tell the difference!) but I also have an old Leapers 3-12 on a very expensive gun. That Leapers was made before all their scopes got converted to fancy sniper turrets with features that don’t work worth a crap. The old scope has brass colored knobs under caps and turning them actually makes the reticle move in predictable and repeatable ways! Not a single one of the later Leapers has performed (or been as clear) as that old inexpensive scope. No way does that one come off the gun!

I have a Bushnell Legend 5-15×40 and I love it, you can find then brand new on ebay for about $150 shipped

quote airgunsoftulsa:

The moral of this story is, don’t do like I’ve done and spend a bunch of money on a bunch of scopes when you could have bought just one.
But, hey! That’s how we learn

I’ll second that. It doesn’t have to be the best scope on the market, it just have to be the best scope you can afford. Don’t try to cut corners in optics. The first step and the hardest one is to figure your ENTIRE budget. Then hunt a scope that meets your needs and at a price that will fit 75 to 100 percent of your budget. If your dream scope exceeds your budget with 50-100 bucks make an effort and wait until you have all the money.

I’ve made me promise that I will never post on the optics part of the forum because I fell my way of thinking is not very popular, but when I saw airgunsoftulsa share my judgment I couldn’t resist to back him up.

I recently bought a hawke panorama ev 3-9×40 ao ir and cannot tell the difference in optical quality between that and my old hawke Sidewinder ir ~ the price difference is £125 though!

I prefer to keep things light and I’m happy with my panorama I’ve just bought a second ev 4-12×40 ao ir for the stealth

I’ve sold my tasco super sniper 10x42m and I have my eb sniper 10×42 as a spare\backup.

Id fully recommend the panorama and sidewinder range

a lot of the bushnell optics have ben discontinued. i also like the mid priced bushnells.

Yea its too bad the Bushnell Legend 5×15 AO Mil-dot is discontinued. For a long time it was the best buy. Ill never lose the 2 I have.

I’ve had a number of scopes on my Condor .25. The Hawke Tactical I have is super sweet, super clear. The reticule is so fine you really have to look for it.

I’ve had a BSA 6-24 Stealth was not a bad scope for a C note. Not the best clarity on full power. It was a heavy scope. Made it hard to not cant the rifle because it made it top heavy.

A Centerpoint 4-16×56 was mounted on it at one time but the mil dot spacing was very close and made it difficult to half mil dot any distance.

I’ve also had a Nikko Stearling 6×24 Nighteater but it too was a little dim with the power turned up. I did like the AO adjustment on this scope. It is very smooth.

I tried one of the Leapers 4-16 and the windage and elevation knobs were locked up out of the box, so I got another one and it’s was locked up too.

And no, the Leapers did not have push-pull turrets.

That problem must be with that model because I have other Leapers scope mounted on other rifles and no problems with them.

I know that a lot of guys here like Bushnell. I’ve never had one, so I can’t speak of their quality.

Tbe moral of this story is, don’t do like I’ve done and spend a bunch of money on a bunch of scopes when you could have bought just one.
But, hey! That’s how we learn

Ive had the exact scope you mention with the SR2 reticle on my S410 for a couple of years now. Ive never had to rezero it even once. I routinely shoot groups that amaze me, so the internals of this scope are solid.

Optics are good. Clear from edge-edge and focus is pretty sharp. The only complaint is the reticle can be a bit tough to see when it starts getting dim outside.
Having said that I do not have the best eyes anymore, and I see worse than most people in the dark. If I had the illuminated reticle, I would have NO complaints about this scope.

You can do better obviously, but for the $200 limit you imposed you are doing well with that Hawke.

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